Jermain Burton

[DanBengalfan]

as long as Burton comes to practice and runs routes, he should be a decent #3 receiver. may even climb up the depth chart or get traded for a second round or better to go start somewhere.

The Bengals are looking at Trey as the Andrew Whitworth of DEs. they have declared that he's old and they can move on. Trey wants multiple years, he's not getting that.

 

[Cincyfan78]

as long as Burton comes to practice and runs routes, he should be a decent #3 receiver. may even climb up the depth chart or get traded for a second round or better to go start somewhere.

The Bengals are looking at Trey as the Andrew Whitworth of DEs. they have declared that he's old and they can move on. Trey wants multiple years, he's not getting that.

Maybe pay his rent on time, too...stay out of the Casino...lol

I *think* the Bengals are willing to give him a 3 year deal (this year, plus 2). I think a major sticking point is the guaranteed portion. Trey is adamant that he wants money in year 2 guaranteed. Bengals are not budging.

This is just my own opinion - but I think this is the main issue. Could be years as well...but I think extending Trey for 2 years isn't a huge issue - and hedges you a bit because only Murphy and Stewart are under contract for next year (Unless they tag Trey). Regardless...once this is all over with, I'm very interested to see what was/wasn't offered...if we ever find out.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Coming from a FF Dynasty investor, I'm pretty disappointed in how things have played out for Burton... Had high expectations that he would be Higgins' replacement but that obviously wasn't meant to be. Curious how the rest of his career will play out, but its not looking good at the moment. Headed toward being another wasted million dollar talent with pennies for brains.

 

[DanBengalfan]

Coming from a FF Dynasty investor, I'm pretty disappointed in how things have played out for Burton... Had high expectations that he would be Higgins' replacement but that obviously wasn't meant to be. Curious how the rest of his career will play out, but its not looking good at the moment. Headed toward being another wasted million dollar talent with pennies for brains.

Bengals rookie WRs almost never pay instant dividends. AJ Green and J'marr Chase being exceptions because they were already better than most starting WRs on day 1. look more towards the Chad Johnson path.

 

[DanBengalfan]

Maybe pay his rent on time, too...stay out of the Casino...lol

I *think* the Bengals are willing to give him a 3 year deal (this year, plus 2). I think a major sticking point is the guaranteed portion. Trey is adamant that he wants money in year 2 guaranteed. Bengals are not budging.

This is just my own opinion - but I think this is the main issue. Could be years as well...but I think extending Trey for 2 years isn't a huge issue - and hedges you a bit because only Murphy and Stewart are under contract for next year (Unless they tag Trey). Regardless...once this is all over with, I'm very interested to see what was/wasn't offered...if we ever find out.

he can go to the casino, but not during company time. they have good food there.

personally, I'd stay away from slot machines though, they are usually a ripoff.

 

[Cincyfan78]

he can go to the casino, but not during company time. they have good food there.

personally, I'd stay away from slot machines though, they are usually a ripoff.

I've never been a big slot machine guy. My buddy loves them, and so does my wife. I've seen him win 2, 3, 4K in a day...and I've seen him pour all of that back into the slot. The wife usually will hit a win, and cash out - and then start back over with a $20, or $100 and play that until it runs out (or wins again). At least in that instance, you should walk away even at worst - but should be up.

I've always been more of a craps followed by blackjack guy.

 

[DanBengalfan]

I've never been a big slot machine guy. My buddy loves them, and so does my wife. I've seen him win 2, 3, 4K in a day...and I've seen him pour all of that back into the slot. The wife usually will hit a win, and cash out - and then start back over with a $20, or $100 and play that until it runs out (or wins again). At least in that instance, you should walk away even at worst - but should be up.

I've always been more of a craps followed by blackjack guy.

I've played online blackjack quite a bit, when it was more legal, and made a few thousand. it takes a lot of self control, some research to determine which casinos were good/bad, and which ones had bonuses.

I can usually do pretty good playing blackjack, although I do realize that the odds are in the favor of the casino, so I don't bother playing with real money anymore. I don't want to be an addict.

 

[Cincyfan78]

I've played online blackjack quite a bit, when it was more legal, and made a few thousand. it takes a lot of self control, some research to determine which casinos were good/bad, and which ones had bonuses.

I can usually do pretty good playing blackjack, although I do realize that the odds are in the favor of the casino, so I don't bother playing with real money anymore. I don't want to be an addict.

I keep all my gambling, even sports, in Vegas. Usually go about once a year, though last year was a bit of an oddity as we went 3 times due to some really good comps and free flights.

Try to split the trip up where you have 1 or 2 days where you gamble more so than others, and then another day or 2 where you just kind of enjoy walking around, we usually have a drinking day where we bar hop or hit places like Davidoff Cigar bar - and spend a few hours there so I can have a cigar or two...etc...Lots of easy ways to enjoy gambling without having to feel like you have to gamble all day/night every day/night...and by keeping it a "Vegas" type thing - keeps me from getting too involved overall...especially the sports betting side of things since it's legal now just about everywhere.

 

[DanBengalfan]

I keep all my gambling, even sports, in Vegas. Usually go about once a year, though last year was a bit of an oddity as we went 3 times due to some really good comps and free flights.

Try to split the trip up where you have 1 or 2 days where you gamble more so than others, and then another day or 2 where you just kind of enjoy walking around, we usually have a drinking day where we bar hop or hit places like Davidoff Cigar bar - and spend a few hours there so I can have a cigar or two...etc...Lots of easy ways to enjoy gambling without having to feel like you have to gamble all day/night every day/night...and by keeping it a "Vegas" type thing - keeps me from getting too involved overall...especially the sports betting side of things since it's legal now just about everywhere.

I feel like I could win more than 50% of certain types of sports bets, but I have yet to put that to a practice run.

 

[cincygrad]

Instead of dispelling the “cheapo Bengals” narrative once and for all, Katie seems to be doubling down like never before.

They easily could’ve improved this football team at a discount and competed for an AFC championship.

Instead they front loaded two WR contracts that should’ve been done ages ago to shut up their QB in the media. Then did nothing but shave money by keeping slop around and adding some C+ level plug ins and a few questionable draft choices. All to keep cap space for…..?

I genuinely don’t get what they gain from squeezing the blood out of the turnip and pinching every penny like they have this offseason. They clearly don’t want to pay Trey. They clearly don’t want to do anything. Maybe Katie just wants to play lawyer and rub one out to bad contract clauses that cost them more money in 3 years to feel big and bad. Or stick it to daddy for making her run the family business. Who knows.

I can't recall ever being this confused about their strategy, which is saying something given that I've been a fan for over 40 years. In the past it was pretty easy to explain their logic as 'saving money,' and maybe that is what is happening here, but I can't get my head around some parts of it. Why do they have over 20 million in cap space in May? Why do they want so much cap space next year when there are so few of our own FAs left to re-sign? I don't get it.

I also can't understand all of the restructuring of bad players. Why would you restructure Volson to sae 560K toward the cap? You don't need cap space. And now you've forced your hand because you're likely not cutting someone that you have offered guarantees in salary. I suppose some of this makes sense if you look at it from a cash perspective, because the moves might save more in real dollars than they do against the cap. If that's the case, they are behaving like they have no money in the bank.... Which is impossible given revenues from the last decade.