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Jeff Samardzija - $100 Millon Dollar Man?

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Based on what?

Since becoming a starter in 2012 (ERA/WHIP/IP/K/BB)

2012 - 3.81/1.219/174.2/180/56 (a good #3)
2013 - 4.34/1.348/213.2/214/78 (a bad #3 or OK #4)
2014 - 2.99/1.065/219.9/202/43 (a legit #1)
2015 - 4.96/1.294/214.0/163/49 (a passable #4)

Where do you see "a legit #2" in there?

Same place the Giants FO sees it. :suds:

Again, if this is all they do, I agree it's not great. Let's see it all play out.

You gotta make bets, if someone is a sure thing they cost $30 mil a year and even then it's not a 'sure thing'. Every big FA signing has risk, the FO knows it, let's see what happens.
 

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We all knew Greinke was all about tha benjamins. :noidea:

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So why do you think the Dodgers, who presumably print money in the dugout, let him go? They have MUCH deeper pockets than AZ and could have thrown ridiculous money at him. What do you think made them not want to pull the trigger?
 

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So why do you think the Dodgers, who presumably print money in the dugout, let him go? They have MUCH deeper pockets than AZ and could have thrown ridiculous money at him. What do you think made them not want to pull the trigger?
I've always been a big Grienke fan, I loved it when the Brewers got him. I've always rooted for him. He plays hard , he hits and fields well and he simply wins. He did go after the money and I don't blame him. I pretty shocked the Giants would want to give Samardzija that type of money. He's got a good arm but I don't think he's been that successful, it pretty much blows my mind.
 

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So why do you think the Dodgers, who presumably print money in the dugout, let him go? They have MUCH deeper pockets than AZ and could have thrown ridiculous money at him. What do you think made them not want to pull the trigger?
what do you think? I really don't know. He's starting to get a little older but I still think he's got quite a few good years left in him and he's more of a pitcher than just a thrower.
 

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Thank you Giants for keeping the Padres from making another mistake.
I guess he isn't a $100 million dollar man after all :heh:
 

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what do you think? I really don't know. He's starting to get a little older but I still think he's got quite a few good years left in him and he's more of a pitcher than just a thrower.
Yeah, I have no idea either. I'm honestly asking. His head problems can't be that big of an issue still. I think he's one of the best and to have that 1-2 punch of Kershaw & Greinke? Pretty formidable. I wouldn't have minded if the Giants overpaid for him at all. David Price was just a bit cheaper and I would have been PISSED if we got him at that price. Especially for that long. I find it interesting that the Dodgers didn't pull out all the stops for him.
 

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If he pitches to an ERA under 3 and wins NLCS or WS MVP this upcoming season, then I KNOW the even year titles for the Giants aren't just a coincidence.
 

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I like this deal 5 at 90 million better than the 5 for 110 million the Tigers gave Zimmerman.
 

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If he pitches to an ERA under 3 and wins NLCS or WS MVP this upcoming season, then I KNOW the even year titles for the Giants aren't just a coincidence.

What if Bumgarner wins WS MVP again, still a coincidence? :suds:
 

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I like this deal 5 at 90 million better than the 5 for 110 million the Tigers gave Zimmerman.
Zimm has health concerns. That is the problem with him.

I think there is still every indication that Scrabble should be AT WORST an innings eater. Zimm has the potential to be on paid vacation for the last 3 years of the deal.
 

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What if Bumgarner wins WS MVP again, still a coincidence? :suds:
That's definitely not something I want to see happen again. Pretty sure it's not just a coincidence if they win it 4 straight even years, but if Shark actually pitches well and makes a strong contribution in the postseason then it definitely isn't.
 

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If the Dodgers need a SP, James Shields is available :thumb:
 

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i dont see any of my claims in that post.

Zimm has health concerns. That is the problem with him.

I think there is still every indication that Scrabble should be AT WORST an innings eater. Zimm has the potential to be on paid vacation for the last 3 years of the deal.

Exactly! If Zimmerman's arm goes year 2 it doesn't matter he is younger than JS.
 

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I like this deal 5 at 90 million better than the 5 for 110 million the Tigers gave Zimmerman.
I'd say he is better than Shark. He's made 32 starts and pitched at least 195 innings in 4 straight seasons and his 3.66 ERA in 2015 was the first time it's been over 3.25 in seasons where he's pitched at least 50 innings. If he stays healthy for the Tigers I'll say it looks like a good deal, maybe a bit of an overpay but a lot of players get overpaid.
 
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