James Neal Suspended Five Games

[KennyBanyeah]

Yeah using injury as your basis is a head scratcher with the NHL and I agree injury should be added on as you state above.
But sometimes that could be very subjective because what if the player doesn't truly show symptoms of the injury until after the suspension is handed out?

You could also have the underhanded folks out there embellishing or exaggerating injuries to try to get steeper penalties against their rivals.

We see too much diving on the ice. We don't need to start seeing it in the doctor's office.

I don't think the injury should be much of a factor, if any, in determining the length of suspension.

 

[Darkstone42]

Penguins get away with something else, what a surprise! -____-

This isn't really the Penguins getting away with something because they're the Penguins so much as the Penguins getting away with something because the league is terrible at disciplining its players.

The suspension is too short, but honestly, when isn't it?

 

[mattola]

This isn't really the Penguins getting away with something because they're the Penguins so much as the Penguins getting away with something because the league is terrible at disciplining its players.

The suspension is too short, but honestly, when isn't it?

I agree with this. so many of us always say what the hell shanny on so many suspension. bottom line is that the NHL has already set the stupidity precedent.

 

[pixburgher66]

You know what's really sad about the Sid tripping accessory to the event thing? People were legitimately making this argument on twitter. What a crap fest that place can be. Stan Fischler said if the refs had called tripping none of this would've happened...but I highly doubt that.

 

[thedddd]

You could also have the underhanded folks out there embellishing or exaggerating injuries to try to get steeper penalties against their rivals.

We see too much diving on the ice. We don't need to start seeing it in the doctor's office.

I don't think the injury should be much of a factor, if any, in determining the length of suspension.

Oh I agree, probably wasn't clear because injury is way too subjective but it is a joke as Bossman stated, why even bring it up? Shanahan shouldn't even mention it because in all honesty that could upset the team against even more and cause even more retaliation at a later time. Shanahan making that comment could add fuel to the fire, sounds moronic but we see retaliation all the time in sports.

 

[elocomotive]

For Christ sakes will they stop using the fact if a player was injured or not to be a factor in the lenght of the suspension ! This makes no sense at all and IMO is irrelevant.

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Do you guy's think Kneel's suspension was only 5 games partly because you can't tell 100% for sure if he did it on purpose?

It looks like about a 95% likelihood he kneew exactly what he was doing, but maybe the cap of 5 games is appropriate giving that you can't be completely sure of his shintentions. I think that was probably a key factor here.

 

[thedddd]

+1


Do you guy's think Kneel's suspension was only 5 games partly because you can't tell 100% for sure if he did it on purpose?

It looks like about a 95% likelihood he kneew exactly what he was doing, but maybe the cap of 5 games is appropriate giving that you can't be completely sure of his shintentions. I think that was probably a key factor here.

Shanaban is an idiot if he thinks Kneel didn't know what he was doing. Yeah the whole suspension process in the NHL is a joke but just think a few years back it was much worse.

Just think a few years back neither probably would have been suspended.

 

[dash]

+1


Do you guy's think Kneel's suspension was only 5 games partly because you can't tell 100% for sure if he did it on purpose?

It looks like about a 95% likelihood he kneew exactly what he was doing, but maybe the cap of 5 games is appropriate giving that you can't be completely sure of his shintentions. I think that was probably a key factor here.

Boy, do I have a bone or 206 to pick with this post

 

[elocomotive]

Boy, do I have a bone or 206 to pick with this post

Lol. So close! You only kneed to find one more to get all of them.

 

[SLY]

+1


Do you guy's think Kneel's suspension was only 5 games partly because you can't tell 100% for sure if he did it on purpose?

It looks like about a 95% likelihood he kneew exactly what he was doing, but maybe the cap of 5 games is appropriate giving that you can't be completely sure of his shintentions. I think that was probably a key factor here.

I only gave you the like for "kneew". It was intentional.

 

[elocomotive]

Shanaban is an idiot if he thinks Kneel didn't know what he was doing. Yeah the whole suspension process in the NHL is a joke but just think a few years back it was much worse.

Just think a few years back neither probably would have been suspended.

I think we all know what Neal was doing here. I'm just saying there isn't an overt act - like a leg going out to trip a guy or leaving of the skates for a hit.

I agree he knew what he was doing - but the fact that you can't show/prove it does make it a harder case to make and they do have a union to deal with.

 

[Dacks]

I think the reason he only got five is because at more than five games, the players can appeal and it goes to an arbitrator? Shanny might have been worried that an arbitrator would buy the "didn't see him" argument and reduce it or eliminate it completely.

For the record, I didn't buy the "didn't see him" argument. Should have been 8-10 games.

 

[SLY]

I think we all know what Neal was doing here. I'm just saying there isn't an overt act - like a leg going out to trip a guy or leaving of the skates for a hit.

I agree he knew what he was doing - but the fact that you can't show/prove it does make it a harder case to make and they do have a union to deal with.

Pfft, lawyers...

 

[elocomotive]

I think the reason he only got five is because at more than five games, the players can appeal and it goes to an arbitrator? Shanny might have been worried that an arbitrator would buy the "didn't see him" argument and reduce it or eliminate it completely.

For the record, I didn't buy the "didn't see him" argument. Should have been 8-10 games.

Right, that's what I was trying to say, except Dacks said it more betterer and with more precisement than I could. Sometimes the words get jumbled in my head and my mouth doesn't say it no goods.

 

[thedddd]

I think we all know what Neal was doing here. I'm just saying there isn't an overt act - like a leg going out to trip a guy or leaving of the skates for a hit.

I agree he knew what he was doing - but the fact that you can't show/prove it does make it a harder case to make and they do have a union to deal with.

Great point and the shame of it is the Union would fight it, yeah I know they are looking out for the best interest of their members but what about the other member on the other end of the bonehead incident.

 

[Dacks]

Right, that's what I was trying to say, except Dacks said it more betterer and with more precisement than I could. Sometimes the words get jumbled in my head and my mouth doesn't say it no goods.

I think you said it fine, for some reason I replied without reading the whole thread...

I hope Neal gets the message. He definitely crosses the line on occasion.

 

[dash]

Personally, I think Neal is a patsy - Croswald is the guy that needs to be investigated.

 

[Vadered]

Lol. So close! You only kneed to find one more to get all of them.

It's the word cap.

Also, the most important thing in all of this is that it's distracted folks from noticing how much of an ass Rinaldo was the other night. 4 seconds of ice time, 27 PIM. Nice work, moron. Even if he isn't suspended, Berube needs to sit him for a few and calm him down.

 

[thedddd]

Lol. So close! You only kneed to find one more to get all of them.

Too funny...I ignored it and got a chuckle out of it. I tried to cap my laughter at the word association.

 

[thedddd]

It's the word cap.

Also, the most important thing in all of this is that it's distracted folks from noticing how much of an ass Rinaldo was the other night. 4 seconds of ice time, 27 PIM. Nice work, moron. Even if he isn't suspended, Berube needs to sit him for a few and calm him down.

Shoot didn't see your response...

Anyway Rinaldo's stupid stunt was up there but since it was against Dallas no one cared?