It's Time To Hate The Lakers Again

[tc1]

Were they a team that plateaued and got stuck in the middle of the pack for years without any real progress?

Again, this happens so rarely that it is difficult to find examples of such. I have requested same several times now, to only crickets.

Sorry, but we talk about this stuff all the time. Everyone else here knows what I meant by it.

"We" is a couple dozen people without much willingness to actually do their homework on a topic, so that's not very impressive. Simply repeating the same poorly thought-out remarks is "talking" but it is not productive nor educational.

If you aren’t sure, maybe ask next time instead of making assumptions and telling everyone it is a stupid claim.

I am sure, and didn't need to ask.

And it was still a fantastically stupid claim.

Conventional wisdom is you can’t get stuck in the middle for too long.

That doesn't happen.

You claim “clearly superior package”

But you honestly saying that adding Scola, Martin and Odom to a roster with Jarret Jack and Belinelli as 2 of their leading scorers is better than adding Eric Gordon (who was their best best player) a 2nd lottery pick and making your own pick more valuable by losing more games?

You left out All-star Dragic, who went on to play a decade at an extremely high level.

Your arguments may improve if you do your homework and get the premise correct.

Anthony Davis isn’t drafted by the Hornets/Pelicans if they take the Laker deal.

Oh right, and they never win all those titles with Davis.

It's rare, but if any team ever has been "stuck in the middle" it is New Orleans __with__ Davis. They were solidly middle-of-the-pack for his entire career there, and they have been since he left, as well, despite a rotating cast of stars.

So again, your entire argument is baseless.

 

[tlance]

Again, this happens so rarely that it is difficult to find examples of such. I have requested same several times now, to only crickets.




"We" is a couple dozen people without much willingness to actually do their homework on a topic, so that's not very impressive. Simply repeating the same poorly thought-out remarks is "talking" but it is not productive nor educational.



I am sure, and didn't need to ask.

And it was still a fantastically stupid claim.



That doesn't happen.


You left out All-star Dragic, who went on to play a decade at an extremely high level.

Your arguments may improve if you do your homework and get the premise correct.



Oh right, and they never win all those titles with Davis.

It's rare, but if any team ever has been "stuck in the middle" it is New Orleans __with__ Davis. They were solidly middle-of-the-pack for his entire career there, and they have been since he left, as well, despite a rotating cast of stars.

So again, your entire argument is baseless.

It doesn’t happen often because when teams plateau most are smart enough to rebuild.

Warriors and Suns are examples of teams that aren’t bad, but have aging cores and are moving in the wrong direction. Trending down instead of up.

So they will either try to make a big move to change trajectory (unlikely) or start to sell pieces and rebuild.

The way the Wizards have run their franchise is the perfect example of what not to do.

Lots of sustained mediocrity going back to the mid 90s.

Bottomed out a couple times, but always short cutted the rebuild trading away valuable future assets for pieces that made them marginally better today. Moves like trading Rip Hamilton for Jerry Stackhouse. Or Chris Webber for Mitch Richmond. Limiting future upside for a few more wins today.

Or failing to trade Wall and Beal when they actually had value to help kick start a rebuild and waiting until they were bad contracts to deal them.

2019 should have been the time that the Wizards knew they weren’t going anywhere with Wall and Beal. They held on too long and built mid 30 win rosters around Beal instead of trading him when he would have returned a haul.

Wizards have finally moved on and have bottomed out. Hopefully they can learn from past mistakes, land a future star in this year’s draft and start to build a core around that player, Coulibaly and Sarr

But it took far to long to get where they are today. It is better to be where they are today than where they were 3 years ago.

Which is the entire point.

 

[tlance]

Again, this happens so rarely that it is difficult to find examples of such. I have requested same several times now, to only crickets.




"We" is a couple dozen people without much willingness to actually do their homework on a topic, so that's not very impressive. Simply repeating the same poorly thought-out remarks is "talking" but it is not productive nor educational.



I am sure, and didn't need to ask.

And it was still a fantastically stupid claim.



That doesn't happen.


You left out All-star Dragic, who went on to play a decade at an extremely high level.

Your arguments may improve if you do your homework and get the premise correct.



Oh right, and they never win all those titles with Davis.

It's rare, but if any team ever has been "stuck in the middle" it is New Orleans __with__ Davis. They were solidly middle-of-the-pack for his entire career there, and they have been since he left, as well, despite a rotating cast of stars.

So again, your entire argument is baseless.

I left out Dragic because he was not a highly regarded prospect like Gordon was.

Nobody thought Dragic would be as good was he was.

24 year old 2nd round pick averaging 7.5 points a game in his 3rd season at the time of the deal.

Nobody saw that coming