It's Time To Hate The Lakers Again

[tc1]

LOL.

Stop it.

Not even close.

Not even the biggest Laker homers actually believe that.

As I said to the other individual -- tell me exactly which 2020 team beats the Laker roster that I posted.

Remember that the Lakers walked through the West in the bubble, so even if they were not quite as good without Davis, they still go at least to the Finals.

For your reference, that roster would have been: James/Ball/Ingram/Kuzma/Zubac would have been the best lineup in the League, and they'd have still had some combination of Green, Hart, Rondo, Hunter, McGee, Caldwell-Pope, Bradley, Howard, Morris, Wagner off the bench. They'd have had the best starting lineup and by-far the deepest bench.

 

[Black Adam]

Ok, you cats were right. I'm missing the good shit here...

 

[Think McFly Think]

Ok, you cats were right. I'm missing the good shit here...

Just caught up on this one myself.

 

[tlance]

As I said to the other individual -- tell me exactly which 2020 team beats the Laker roster that I posted.

Remember that the Lakers walked through the West in the bubble, so even if they were not quite as good without Davis, they still go at least to the Finals.

For your reference, that roster would have been: James/Ball/Ingram/Kuzma/Zubac would have been the best lineup in the League, and they'd have still had some combination of Green, Hart, Rondo, Hunter, McGee, Caldwell-Pope, Bradley, Howard, Morris, Wagner off the bench. They'd have had the best starting lineup and by-far the deepest bench.

First off, you are making some really bad assumptions here.

The free agents the Lakers signed came in to play with LeBron AND AD. Not LeBron and the kids. I am sure they get somebody.

But the vets they got were mostly ring chasing with the chance to play with 2 top stars. That was not the case before the trade.

2nd, fit was not there. Ball was a tragically bad fit to play alongside LeBron. Horrible.

Ingram was developing, but it is hard for young players to develop on teams with championship expectations that LeBron brings.

Zubac has really turned into a pretty good player. But he was already gone. Traded before the deadline in 2019 for more shooting

You don’t get that one back because it makes your narrative look better. Also, he was not the guys he is today.

As for teams that beat them?

Clippers, Nuggets, Rockets

Probably the Heat even though there were other better teams from the East that didn’t advance.

Bucks and Celtics were better too.

And teams like OKC, Utah and Dallas were good enough to beat them in a playoff series too.

 

[Wamu]

Look at the roster I just posted. Tell me who exactly beats it.


(1)Yes, great numbers -- now recall that the Lakers traded four good players for him, and those players' production swamps those numbers.

Also recall that the Lakers walked through the West that year, so even if they weren't quite as good, they'd still make the Finals. And Miami is not beating the roster I described, especially if they don't have Butler.

1. Damn thank you for the laugh. Yeah the Lakers had all that production. Traded it away and won with AD. Now who meant more to the Lakers- the players traded away that won nothing or AD who helped bring a title to Los Angeles?

People can be biased, like you. But number never lie and tell the whole story. Lakers don't win it all in '20 without AD.

Do you truly think anything/everything you say is always correct?

 

[Wamu]

Ok, you cats were right. I'm missing the good shit here...

You better have enough popcorn for everyone!

Just caught up on this one myself.

I just wanna say whatever you say in here about this current topic of the '20 Lakers is wrong.

 

[Black Adam]

You better have enough popcorn for everyone!

Already on it...

I just wanna say whatever you say in here about this current topic of the '20 Lakers is wrong.

Lol I'll keep it in mind for future convos...

 

[Black Adam]

1. Damn thank you for the laugh. Yeah the Lakers had all that production. Traded it away and won with AD. Now who meant more to the Lakers- the players traded away that won nothing or AD who helped bring a title to Los Angeles?

People can be biased, like you. But number never lie and tell the whole story. Lakers don't win it all in '20 without AD.

Do you truly think anything/everything you say is always correct?

Oh no doubt about it. A look at his numbers in the '20 finals kinda tells the story...

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

 

[tc1]

First off, you are making some really bad assumptions here.

The free agents the Lakers signed came in to play with LeBron AND AD. Not LeBron and the kids. I am sure they get somebody.

These were not, for the most part, players that the whole league was lining up to sign. For example, no one wanted Caruso. But fine, remove a couple players -- this roster is still stacked, and far better than any other in the league.

Also note that in this scenario, the Lakers have not traded any of those first-round picks for other improvements, which they could have, and likely would have, done. So this is not nearly the best Davis-free roster that Los Angeles could have assembled. As noted, they could have easily added Butler, for a pittance.

2nd, fit was not there. Ball was a tragically bad fit to play alongside LeBron. Horrible.

There are exceedingly few basketball players that LeBron James has proven unable to play with. A smart, big, versatile PG like Ball is highly unlikely to be added to that list. In fact, I'm not totally sure that list exists. Who do you believe is on this list? Maybe Westbrook.

And even if James and Ball were somehow incompatible, fine. Start Caldwell-Pope. Or Bradley. Or even Hart. This team has options galore.

Ingram was developing, but it is hard for young players to develop on teams with championship expectations that LeBron brings.

Ingram was an All-star that season. The Lakers would not need him to be one, but he was already that good, so you are talking completely out of your rear.

Zubac has really turned into a pretty good player. But he was already gone. Traded before the deadline in 2019 for more shooting

They only traded Zubac to make room for Davis ( financially and physically ).

Clippers, Nuggets, Rockets

Probably the Heat even though there were other better teams from the East that didn’t advance.

Bucks and Celtics were better too.

And teams like OKC, Utah and Dallas were good enough to beat them in a playoff series too.

Most of those teams barely made the playoffs, and when they got there, the Lakers shellacked them.

Let's look at a random-selected roster that you want us to believe beats that completely-loaded Laker roster:

Thunder: 21 year-old Gilgeous-Alexander, Chris Paul, and.... Dennis Schroder, Gallinari, Steven Adams, and almost completely rookies on their bench, and not particularly good ones.

That's rank nonsense, completely divorced from reality.

The Bucks were destroyed by Miami.

 

[Wamu]

Already on it...

Lol I'll keep it in mind for future convos...

 

[tc1]

1. Damn thank you for the laugh. Yeah the Lakers had all that production. Traded it away and won with AD. Now who meant more to the Lakers- the players traded away that won nothing or AD who helped bring a title to Los Angeles?

I'm not sure what question you think you are answering, but whatever it is, it isn't the one under discussion here.

Do you truly think anything/everything you say is always correct?

Of course I do, I wouldn't say it otherwise.

Maybe that's the problem on this forum? Are most of you writing nonsense that you know is wrong, just for grins? That would explain a lot.

 

[Wamu]

I'm not sure what question you think you are answering, but whatever it is, it isn't the one under discussion here.



Of course I do, I wouldn't say it otherwise.

Maybe that's the problem on this forum? Are most of you writing nonsense that you know is wrong, just for grins? That would explain a lot.

So you think you know everything huh? People like you are always fun to have around.

Yeah you know everything. Well except for the fact the Lakers don't win it all in '20 without AD.

 

[tc1]

So you think you know everything huh? People like you are always fun to have around.

Yeah you know everything. Well except for the fact the Lakers don't win it all in '20 without AD.

My god, the reading comprehension in this forum is shockingly terrible. I hope few of you are native English speakers.

You completely changed the statement. Try, really hard this time, to read the preceding comments.

 

[tlance]

These were not, for the most part, players that the whole league was lining up to sign. For example, no one wanted Caruso. But fine, remove a couple players -- this roster is still stacked, and far better than any other in the league.

Also note that in this scenario, the Lakers have not traded any of those first-round picks for other improvements, which they could have, and likely would have, done. So this is not nearly the best Davis-free roster that Los Angeles could have assembled. As noted, they could have easily added Butler, for a pittance.



There are exceedingly few basketball players that LeBron James has proven unable to play with. A smart, big, versatile PG like Ball is highly unlikely to be added to that list. In fact, I'm not totally sure that list exists. Who do you believe is on this list? Maybe Westbrook.

And even if James and Ball were somehow incompatible, fine. Start Caldwell-Pope. Or Bradley. Or even Hart. This team has options galore.



Ingram was an All-star that season. The Lakers would not need him to be one, but he was already that good, so you are talking completely out of your rear.



They only traded Zubac to make room for Davis ( financially and physically ).



Most of those teams barely made the playoffs, and when they got there, the Lakers shellacked them.

Let's look at a random-selected roster that you want us to believe beats that completely-loaded Laker roster:

Thunder: 21 year-old Gilgeous-Alexander, Chris Paul, and.... Dennis Schroder, Gallinari, Steven Adams, and almost completely rookies on their bench, and not particularly good ones.

That's rank nonsense, completely divorced from reality.

The Bucks were destroyed by Miami.

Nah. They wanted another shooter and to dump Beasley’s contract. You don’t get to play arm chair QB like that.

Crazy talk.

It isn’t that LeBron can’t play with Ball. Ball couldn’t play with LeBron.

He was the worst shooter in the league his first 2 seasons.

So you are either taking the ball out of LeBron’s hands to put it in Ball’s, or you playing LeBron off the ball. Either way it isn’t ideal.

And Ingram was able to earn the MIP award and his lone all star bid that year because he moved out of LeBron’s shadow and played on a bad Pelicans team. He doesn’t likely get there in LA.

Sorry.

 

[Wamu]

My god, the reading comprehension in this forum is shockingly terrible. I hope few of you are native English speakers.

-->You completely changed the statement.<-- Try, really hard this time, to read the preceding comments.

Now you're just outright lying. I did not change your statement. This is what I responded to. Your # 112 comment.

I'm not sure what question you think you are answering, but whatever it is, it isn't the one under discussion here.



(1)Of course I do, I wouldn't say it otherwise. <-----------

Maybe that's the problem on this forum? Are most of you writing nonsense that you know is wrong, just for grins? That would explain a lot.

(1) I asked you if you thought what you say is always correct. That was your answer.

You keep talking in circles you'll make yourself dizzy.