It May Be Time To Start Thinking About Blaine Gabbert

[Montalban]

You think THIS coaching staff will be paying close attention to anything? This coaching staff couldn't march a heard of rabid elephants through a wet paper bag.

Hand picked by the guy who refused to get along with the only legitimate NFL coach this debacle of a franchise has had since George Siefert left town. Baalke should have been fired two seasons ago. Because Jed chose to appease Baalke's silly ego, this fanbase is going to feel the pain of drafting in the top 5 for the next 5-10 years. Count on it. Nobody wants to coach here (we couldn't get a single legit coordinator to even answer the phone), and nobody wants to play here (all-pros would rather retire than play for this disaster; I can't say I blame them as this is a completely rudderless ship).

Thank GOD we got rid of the real problem and sent Harbaugh to Michigan. Imagine how much worse we'd be if he were still on our sideline.

That right there says it all.

 

[Montalban]

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I believe Kap hired the coaches and not the team. Kap did it on his own

I guess he wants to learn but just can't cut it.

 

[Cut My Red I Bleed Gold]

I guess he wants to learn but just can't cut it.

He's always shown flashes of accuracy, I think his hopes were adding consistency to his game. Thus far, it is not there behind his sieve of a line. That coupled with DB's keying in on the routes he can throw completely negates him as a passer threat until he shows otherwise. It's bad...it's early...but the latter is the good news and hopefully we can rip off a few wins in a row and right the ship. It's been a strange year for quite a few teams and looks to continue that direction.

 

[Montalban]

He's always shown flashes of accuracy, I think his hopes were adding consistency to his game. Thus far, it is not there behind his sieve of a line. That coupled with DB's keying in on the routes he can throw completely negates him as a passer threat until he shows otherwise. It's bad...it's early...but the latter is the good news and hopefully we can rip off a few wins in a row and right the ship. It's been a strange year for quite a few teams and looks to continue that direction.

I can't blame the line. They are what they are. They are bad but he needs to be able to recoognize coverages quickly and get the ball out which he cannot do. He needs to be decisive and get that horrendous footwork corrected. That poor form is the biggest reason for his inaccuracy. Once he gets the happ feet he's done. He's got to get over the fear of the pass rush and look past it. He laso needs to improve his decision-making. Personnally, I don't think he ever will.

 

[Cut My Red I Bleed Gold]

I can't blame the line. They are what they are. They are bad but he needs to be able to recoognize coverages quickly and get the ball out which he cannot do. He needs to be decisive and get that horrendous footwork corrected. That poor form is the biggest reason for his inaccuracy. Once he gets the happ feet he's done. He's got to get over the fear of the pass rush and look past it. He laso needs to improve his decision-making. Personnally, I don't think he ever will.

That may be true...but look at what Rodgers to the cha cha and throw from crazy angles as well...Kaep has a stronger arm, but not the recognition skills. I'm hoping his confidence isn't completely draining with each series as he has the physical talent to go far...just needs to put it together. I personally think it all starts with wardrobe selection...he should just start wearing a black crew sweatshirt and pleated Kaki's every day rather than look like a member of Bel Biv Devo at the podium....yes that is drenched in sarcasm...but maybe it wasn't entirely..

 

[Xponentialchaos]

I'm tired of hearing about Kaepernick's potential. Honestly, how many times are we going to say that?

After this many years, he still has "potential" even though he hasn't done anything with it. Yes, we all know of his physical traits, but he's severely lacking in the mental part of the game. At this point, I think it's absurd to believe that he's ever going to get it. He's not a good quarterback and he never will be.

 

[Cut My Red I Bleed Gold]

I'm tired of hearing about Kaepernick's potential. Honestly, how many times are we going to say that?

After this many years, he still has "potential" even though he hasn't done anything with it. Yes, we all know of his physical traits, but he's severely lacking in the mental part of the game. At this point, I think it's absurd to believe that he's ever going to get it. He's not a good quarterback and he never will be.

So you're denying that there is any potential at all? Like when he came in for Smith and ripped off nearly three NFC titles along with a Super Bowl appearances where he nearly lead us to the biggest come back victory in the history of the sport? He's in a bad spot absolutely right now...but there is still that potential. The line and the defense are utter shells of what they were even with a depleted D last year...sure there's a lot more to be desired, and it's easy to point fingers, but just remember Farve fuckin sucked on Atlanta, had a pill problem, went to Green Bay, and worked himself into a pretty darn good QB. I'm sure a lot thought he had no potential.

 

[Xponentialchaos]

So you're denying that there is any potential at all? Like when he came in for Smith and ripped off nearly three NFC titles along with a Super Bowl appearances where he nearly lead us to the biggest come back victory in the history of the sport? He's in a bad spot absolutely right now...but there is still that potential. The line and the defense are utter shells of what they were even with a depleted D last year...sure there's a lot more to be desired, and it's easy to point fingers, but just remember Farve fuckin sucked on Atlanta, had a pill problem, went to Green Bay, and worked himself into a pretty darn good QB. I'm sure a lot thought he had no potential.

Yes. There is no potential. At all.

He's not intelligent enough to play the position.

He had some success early in his career because he was new. Teams now know exactly what his weaknesses are and how to exploit them. Furthermore, Kaepernick has only shown marginal improvement since first entering the league.

Brett Favre made it to 3 pro bowls in his first 5 years. This is Kaep's fifth year, and he sure as hell isn't going to be selected to his first pro bowl.

Favre > Kaep

Alex Smith > Kaep

Gabbert > Kaep

 

[HighTopFade]

I wouldn't be surprised if upper management is considering Gabbert. If I remember correctly, Kaep's complicated contract doesn't pay him if he doesn't start or misses games. If upper management is as cheap as everyone thinks they are, then here's a golden opportunity to save a few bucks.

 

[deep9er]

Cosell: Kap's ability to 'run fast in a straight line' doesn't matter

I like Cossell and not going to say he's wrong. Yep, it is nice he can run but that is only if he can pass first. NFL QB's are about passing first, everything else is gravy.

Yes, it is Kaep's 5th season and he's played since 2012. There is no more 'young QB', no more 'development', no more he's improving from off season work. We got what we got and we knew it LAST year. Think most of us already see we need another QB, but it is easier said than done.

 

[purguy12]

Cosell: Kap's ability to 'run fast in a straight line' doesn't matter

I like Cossell and not going to say he's wrong. Yep, it is nice he can run but that is only if he can pass first. NFL QB's are about passing first, everything else is gravy.

Yes, it is Kaep's 5th season and he's played since 2012. There is no more 'young QB', no more 'development', no more he's improving from off season work. We got what we got and we knew it LAST year. Think most of us already see we need another QB, but it is easier said than done.

With a good Oline he is fine as we saw by leading us to back to back NFC championship games and a super bowl and he cant do it himself with a bad Oline as we can see from last year and this year.

He is a guy that needs help. I don't blame him look at Luck. Luck sucks this year because his Oline isn't great. better then ours. Look At Wilson, bad oline and Wilson sucks this year.

Oline means a lot guys. Some don't understand. Only a few can continue to win with a bad Oline(Rogers, brady and Big Ben).

 

[HighTopFade]

With a good Oline he is fine as we saw by leading us to back to back NFC championship games and a super bowl and he cant do it himself with a bad Oline as we can see from last year and this year.

He is a guy that needs help. I don't blame him look at Luck. Luck sucks this year because his Oline isn't great. better then ours. Look At Wilson, bad oline and Wilson sucks this year.

Oline means a lot guys. Some don't understand. Only a few can continue to win with a bad Oline(Rogers, brady and Big Ben).

Agree. Most quarterbacks will suck if they have the worst Oline in the league. Kap was ok until last weekend. Must've been some freak spell throwing 4 interceptions. At least that's what I believe. Perhaps we should give Arizona's defense credit for being just plain good. But you know, it happens. Eli Manning, Romo, and Luck to name a few.

 

[purguy12]

Crazy stat just came out Kap has been pressured 43% of the snaps. By far the most in the League. That is not good. That is close to 50% of the time he steps back some one is in his face real quick.

 

[Cut My Red I Bleed Gold]

Crazy stat just came out Kap has been pressured 43% of the snaps. By far the most in the League. That is not good. That is close to 50% of the time he steps back some one is in his face real quick.

EXAAAAAACTLY...

 

[Montalban]

I'm tired of hearing about Kaepernick's potential. Honestly, how many times are we going to say that?

After this many years, he still has "potential" even though he hasn't done anything with it. Yes, we all know of his physical traits, but he's severely lacking in the mental part of the game. At this point, I think it's absurd to believe that he's ever going to get it. He's not a good quarterback and he never will be.

Man, you should have heard all these ex QBs and current GMs on KNBR this morning just tearing kaepernick a new one. Not one of them said Kaepernick had a chance to be successful in the NFL. Most were saying that if its true that he is a hard worker and works at his craft then the 49ers are in real trouble because that means he cannot get it no matter how hard he works at it..

 

[Montalban]

I guess Hyde had some pretty uncomplimentary things to say about Kaepernick after the game.

 

[Number7]

Oh yikes, we are still making excuses for Kap lol. He is awful, and has played really awful this season so far (and all of last season). He had an okay half in a Pittsburgh game where it didn't matter, that's about it.

His game against the Cardinals was the worst performance I've ever seen a QB have. "His O line is the worst" seems to be the next excuse we are giving him. Ok, I get they are bad but did you guys watch the actual game? Kap made horrible decisions. Yes, some were made under pressure, but even shitty back up QBs know to tuck it and take a sack rather than throw up prayers like that. It was pitiful.

I'm not even sure what they should do with Kap. I can't pretend to know the ins and outs of his contract, but I assume letting him play past this year will cost a ton of money. In that case, I say let him go. I'm not sure drafting a QB is the answer b/c the team does need an O line before you can throw a new QB back there (a la Alex Smith). So I guess we will just be bad for a while. I can't imagine anyone would want to trade for him, would they?

It's hard people keep talking about Kap's "potential" (and I even see it in this thread) because he has regressed SO much since the Super Bowl that it's hard to see this getting any better. He's on a much worse team now and he has zero confidence. The coaching staff is horrible and management is even worse. Gabbert is clearly not the answer so maybe they should just start calling a lot of QB runs. or stop telling him to be a pocket passer and say "hey, it's okay to run, do it more than you are now." Seriously, what is the point of playing Kap at this point if you don't want him to run?

And yeah, I'm sure he will throw for like 200 yards and a TD this week and people will be like "see Kap played well, it wasn't his fault we lost." But it's that kind of lets-search-really-really-hard-for-any-silver-lining philosophy that's gonna make it impossible for people to realize he needs to go.

At least we have Hyde I suppose.

 

[deep9er]

He's always shown flashes of accuracy, I think his hopes were adding consistency to his game. Thus far, it is not there behind his sieve of a line. That coupled with DB's keying in on the routes he can throw completely negates him as a passer threat until he shows otherwise. It's bad...it's early...but the latter is the good news and hopefully we can rip off a few wins in a row and right the ship. It's been a strange year for quite a few teams and looks to continue that direction.

Yep, i'm harking on Kaep but he isn't helped by this O-line.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Brian Billick was just on KNBR talking about this. He said there are a number of problems on offense, not just kap. Kap had a poor day last Sunday and a lot is on him. But there are alot of problems this team has to fix both on offense and defense. LOL, one poster on another site had that idiotic post of the day. He was serious when he posted if not for kap the 49ers would be a playoff team this year.

 

[purguy12]

Oh yikes, we are still making excuses for Kap lol. He is awful, and has played really awful this season so far (and all of last season). He had an okay half in a Pittsburgh game where it didn't matter, that's about it.

His game against the Cardinals was the worst performance I've ever seen a QB have. "His O line is the worst" seems to be the next excuse we are giving him. Ok, I get they are bad but did you guys watch the actual game? Kap made horrible decisions. Yes, some were made under pressure, but even shitty back up QBs know to tuck it and take a sack rather than throw up prayers like that. It was pitiful.

I'm not even sure what they should do with Kap. I can't pretend to know the ins and outs of his contract, but I assume letting him play past this year will cost a ton of money. In that case, I say let him go. I'm not sure drafting a QB is the answer b/c the team does need an O line before you can throw a new QB back there (a la Alex Smith). So I guess we will just be bad for a while. I can't imagine anyone would want to trade for him, would they?

It's hard people keep talking about Kap's "potential" (and I even see it in this thread) because he has regressed SO much since the Super Bowl that it's hard to see this getting any better. He's on a much worse team now and he has zero confidence. The coaching staff is horrible and management is even worse. Gabbert is clearly not the answer so maybe they should just start calling a lot of QB runs. or stop telling him to be a pocket passer and say "hey, it's okay to run, do it more than you are now." Seriously, what is the point of playing Kap at this point if you don't want him to run?

And yeah, I'm sure he will throw for like 200 yards and a TD this week and people will be like "see Kap played well, it wasn't his fault we lost." But it's that kind of lets-search-really-really-hard-for-any-silver-lining philosophy that's gonna make it impossible for people to realize he needs to go.

At least we have Hyde I suppose.

No excuses just facts. This is the worst Oline. Again Im ok with moving on from Kap. people are just pointing out Oline is a Big difference. Same could be said about Luck, should the colts move on. He hasn't done nothing and still makes the same mistakes. At least Kap has a better track record then Luck and some others.

For a QB to succeed u need a good Oline. There are only a few that can get past that(Brady and Rogers).