It May Be Time To Start Thinking About Blaine Gabbert

[Montalban]

LOL, that level of offensive game planning is well beyond my knowledge of football so I wouldn't know.

I don't know man, it doesn't take much knowledge of offensive game planning to know that 3/4 of the teams don't have play calling that is as bad and predictable as the 49ers. You can watch the games and see that no one in the league has been as bad as the 49ers the past two weeks. Even if there are a couple of teams, to say 3/4 of the league are as bad is absurd.

 

[purguy12]

Comparing Kap to Luck is just weird, I'm not even sure where that is coming from. B/c they both have bad Olines?

Luck hasn't shown a year+ of complete ineptitude and confusion. Kap has, and is getting worse by the game.

Not comparing, just stating what a bad offensive line does. Luck looks like crap. My question should the Colts move on? People are killing Kap but overall he has had a better career then Luck. Luck is some what like Kap where Luck cant read Defensives either. He continues to throw picks after picks.

 

[purguy12]

i would start Gabbert when Coaches sense enough players lose faith in Kaep. There is no exact way to know this, and hence no exact right time. All they can do is sense it in the locker room.

i would play Gabbert during a game, if Kaep gets another two poorly thrown INT's.

I agree with this statement. If we are getting blown out this week Gabbert needs to come in and play.

Im still shocked no changes have been made. This coaching staff is a joke. I don't get how you don't make any changes.

 

[Montalban]

Not comparing, just stating what a bad offensive line does. Luck looks like crap. My question should the Colts move on? People are killing Kap but overall he has had a better career then Luck. Luck is some what like Kap where Luck cant read Defensives either. He continues to throw picks after picks.

I don't think there is a GM in the league that would not take Luck straight over Kaepernick.

 

[purguy12]

I don't think there is a GM in the league that would not take Luck straight over Kaepernick.

I agree, but the honest truth Luck isn't anything special. He is in the same boat as Kap but gets special treatment for no reason. At least Cap has made it to a superbowl and back to back championship games.

Im not defending Kap. Im just stating that its funny that both get different treatment. Luck is a turnover machine. He hasn't learned to read Defenses either yet.

1 thing they both have in common is Bad Oline's.

 

[Pattersonca65]

Not to excuse every bad pass Luck throws, but part of the problem I see with Luck is that he is having to try and carry the team almost week in and week out. The Colts D is pretty bad and their running game hasn't been very good. Often times it is on Luck's shoulders to keep the offense moving and the game close. Because of this he probably forces passes at times.

 

[deep9er]

I'm not so sure. Kaepernick has had his biggest games against GB because they are dumb enough to play Man coverage against him. This does two things. It frees Kaepernick from having to read defenses which he struggles mightily with and it turns the backs of the DBs who are in coverage and they don't see him as he's taking off to run until its too late.

ok, but what is this saying? if we're not going to establish the run - cause i take this post to mean we do have a choice - what is this suggesting instead?

Then what if GB doesn't use man?

 

[deep9er]

I agree, but the honest truth Luck isn't anything special. He is in the same boat as Kap but gets special treatment for no reason. At least Cap has made it to a superbowl and back to back championship games.

Im not defending Kap. Im just stating that its funny that both get different treatment. Luck is a turnover machine. He hasn't learned to read Defenses either yet.

1 thing they both have in common is Bad Oline's.

whaa??!!

Your opinion is fine, but mine is....Luck is much better than Kaep in the passing game. You have to look at their overall performances - individual performances going back a few years.

getting to the SB is something to credit, but way more a team effort than QB effort.

 

[darken65]

I agree, but the honest truth Luck isn't anything special. He is in the same boat as Kap but gets special treatment for no reason. At least Cap has made it to a superbowl and back to back championship games.

Im not defending Kap. Im just stating that its funny that both get different treatment. Luck is a turnover machine. He hasn't learned to read Defenses either yet.

1 thing they both have in common is Bad Oline's.

To the bolded: How did you come to that conclusion really? I would agree that both teams have issues with the OL for sure but how is Luck getting anything as far as special treatment? Not defending Kap? Yes you are.

 

[purguy12]

whaa??!!

Your opinion is fine, but mine is....Luck is much better than Kaep in the passing game. You have to look at their overall performances - individual performances going back a few years.

getting to the SB is something to credit, but way more a team effort than QB effort.

I agree Luck is the better QB but people made this guy Elite when he isn't. Everyone uses excuses for luck and he still doesnt perform. Just look his playoff stats. They are bad. How Int is he allowed to throw before people him. I also heard Colts have no Oline, No running game and just TY was his weapon. They go out and try to help him and he still struggles.

 

[purguy12]

To the bolded: How did you come to that conclusion really? I would agree that both teams have issues with the OL for sure but how is Luck getting anything as far as special treatment? Not defending Kap? Yes you are.

Im talking about the Media and the fan base. Kap is getting kicked around right now(well deserved) but Luck who hasn't done anything and has more turnovers and has choked in the playoffs not get any negative talk. People still talk about this guy as him being Elite. He is far from Elite. He has just as much trouble reading D's as Kap. Im not defending Kap. Not even close. Both have struggled as of late. Im just stating facts that Kap has performed better in bigger moments. Luck has choked in most cases.

Im ok with moving on from Kap. Truth is Kap isn't the only problem. Coaching and Oline is Major problem. When we had a good Oline Kap was fine.

 

[darken65]

Im talking about the Media and the fan base. Kap is getting kicked around right now(well deserved) but Luck who hasn't done anything and has more turnovers and has choked in the playoffs not get any negative talk. People still talk about this guy as him being Elite. He is far from Elite. He has just as much trouble reading D's as Kap. Im not defending Kap. Not even close. Both have struggled as of late. Im just stating facts that Kap has performed better in bigger moments. Luck has choked in most cases.

Im ok with moving on from Kap. Truth is Kap isn't the only problem. Coaching and Oline is Major problem. When we had a good Oline Kap was fine.

I guess it depends on what you are watching as far as any analysist of Luck's performance lately.I agree the he hasn't shown much in the playoffs. Back to Kap. Do you think he has been fine with any OL he has been behind? Explain then his redzone stats? Short range passing? Teams have easily figured out his one read ,panic,throw a dart or run theme.

 

[Montalban]

I agree, but the honest truth Luck isn't anything special. He is in the same boat as Kap but gets special treatment for no reason. At least Cap has made it to a superbowl and back to back championship games.

Im not defending Kap. Im just stating that its funny that both get different treatment. Luck is a turnover machine. He hasn't learned to read Defenses either yet.

1 thing they both have in common is Bad Oline's.

I cannot express the depth of which I disagree with that statement..

 

[Montalban]

ok, but what is this saying? if we're not going to establish the run - cause i take this post to mean we do have a choice - what is this suggesting instead?

Then what if GB doesn't use man?

We are dead. But to think we can use primarily the run to stay with GBs high powered offense I believe you are mistaken.

 

[Montalban]

Im talking about the Media and the fan base. Kap is getting kicked around right now(well deserved) but Luck who hasn't done anything and has more turnovers and has choked in the playoffs not get any negative talk. People still talk about this guy as him being Elite. He is far from Elite. He has just as much trouble reading D's as Kap. Im not defending Kap. Not even close. Both have struggled as of late. Im just stating facts that Kap has performed better in bigger moments. Luck has choked in most cases.

Im ok with moving on from Kap. Truth is Kap isn't the only problem. Coaching and Oline is Major problem. When we had a good Oline Kap was fine.

We disagree again. No one has as much trouble reading defenses as kaepernick. What makes it worse though is that with the simplified offense the 49ers have had to install in order for Kaepernick to operate, defenses know exactly what is coming.

 

[deep9er]

We are dead. But to think we can use primarily the run to stay with GBs high powered offense I believe you are mistaken.

well, if you think we'll utilize Kaep's passing skills to overtake Green Bay's offense, who is more mistaken? We don't even need to add in the quality of our pass protection.

Yes, if we can't pass the ball well, then you try to establish the run first. this doesn't mean you run every down, but if you can't run the ball, we'll lose anyway.

 

[Xponentialchaos]

Luck and Kaep are not close in any way, shape, or form. This comparison is ridiculous.

 

[Montalban]

well, if you think we'll utilize Kaep's passing skills to overtake Green Bay's offense, who is more mistaken? We don't even need to add in the quality of our pass protection.

Yes, if we can't pass the ball well, then you try to establish the run first. this doesn't mean you run every down, but if you can't run the ball, we'll lose anyway.

Good point. It just seems kaepernick has his best passing games against GB. I still think it will be a blowout but I think GB's Man coverages play right into Kaepernick's hands and they will score about 27 points to 41 or 45 for GB. If they try to run first they'll score about 10 or 12 points. Might hold GB to a little less but I doubt it.

 

[purguy12]

We disagree again. No one has as much trouble reading defenses as kaepernick. What makes it worse though is that with the simplified offense the 49ers have had to install in order for Kaepernick to operate, defenses know exactly what is coming.

I don't disagree with you but same could be said about Luck. Not as bad as Kap but overall still has trouble.

 

[purguy12]

well, if you think we'll utilize Kaep's passing skills to overtake Green Bay's offense, who is more mistaken? We don't even need to add in the quality of our pass protection.

Yes, if we can't pass the ball well, then you try to establish the run first. this doesn't mean you run every down, but if you can't run the ball, we'll lose anyway.

We need Kap to roll out. He needs to be more of a running QB. He cant stay in the pocket with that bad Oline. We need to run the ball. GB has the 27th ranked run D. Keep the ball out of Rodgers hands.