Is Pitt going to be able to field a team next year ?

[rmilia1]

It seems like only yesterday the yinzers wanted to run Jamie Dixon out of town because they thought Pitt was a blue-blood and could do better.

Iowa did that in 98 to Tom Davis. Only took 15 years to get back into the Top 10 . Great decision lol

 

[The Q]

UCONN.

Did pitt vote for Louisville for acc spot?

 

[ericd7633]

I was doing some research and was curious as to which coaches have a career winning % close to that of Dixon during his tenure at Pitt. Dixon won 73% of his games at Pitt. Just to compare that to some other coaches:

Coach K has a 76.5 career winning %
Bill Self has a 76.6 career winning %
John Beilein(who I think is great) has a 63.3 career winning %
Jay Wright has a 68.3 career winning %
Matt Painter has a 67.5 career winning %
Tom Izzo has a 71.8 career winning %
Gregg Marshall has a 73 career winning %
Tony Bennett has a 70.8 career winning %

The fact that Pitt made it easier for him to leave is almost criminal. I get that he didn't have great results in the tournament, but you're Pitt basketball(no disrespect but outside of a 10 year run in the mid 80's to early 90's) the program has been irrelevant outside of the Howland/Dixon era.

 

[SteelersPride]

I was doing some research and was curious as to which coaches have a career winning % close to that of Dixon during his tenure at Pitt. Dixon won 73% of his games at Pitt. Just to compare that to some other coaches:

Coach K has a 76.5 career winning %
Bill Self has a 76.6 career winning %
John Beilein(who I think is great) has a 63.3 career winning %
Jay Wright has a 68.3 career winning %
Matt Painter has a 67.5 career winning %
Tom Izzo has a 71.8 career winning %
Gregg Marshall has a 73 career winning %
Tony Bennett has a 70.8 career winning %

The fact that Pitt made it easier for him to leave is almost criminal. I get that he didn't have great results in the tournament, but you're Pitt basketball(no disrespect but outside of a 10 year run in the mid 80's to early 90's) the program has been irrelevant outside of the Howland/Dixon era.

You are correct

 

[The Q]

I was doing some research and was curious as to which coaches have a career winning % close to that of Dixon during his tenure at Pitt. Dixon won 73% of his games at Pitt. Just to compare that to some other coaches:

Coach K has a 76.5 career winning %
Bill Self has a 76.6 career winning %
John Beilein(who I think is great) has a 63.3 career winning %
Jay Wright has a 68.3 career winning %
Matt Painter has a 67.5 career winning %
Tom Izzo has a 71.8 career winning %
Gregg Marshall has a 73 career winning %
Tony Bennett has a 70.8 career winning %

The fact that Pitt made it easier for him to leave is almost criminal. I get that he didn't have great results in the tournament, but you're Pitt basketball(no disrespect but outside of a 10 year run in the mid 80's to early 90's) the program has been irrelevant outside of the Howland/Dixon era.

Yeah, but Dixon was going back to save his alma mater.

There's a serious emotional draw to that (for some people).

 

[The Q]

Pitt is gonna throw like 3 Mil at porter moser after this week.

 

[DefCONNOne]

Did pitt vote for Louisville for acc spot?

In the private vote? Probably. I don't know and it doesn't matter if I did know.

 

[GoldRusher]

I wouldn't shed a tear of they were forced to shut down their basketball program(s). Not one.

Note: Yes I know that'll never happen. But there aren't enough bad things that can happen to the University of Pittsburgh that would ever make me happy.

Pretty sure we were separated at birth...

 

[The Q]

In the private vote? Probably. I don't know and it doesn't matter if I did know.

I’ll root for pitt over the traditional ACC schools every time.

 

[DefCONNOne]

I’ll root for pitt over the traditional ACC schools every time.

Not me. Ever.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Pitt is gonna throw like 3 Mil at porter moser after this week.

Bringing Pitt back playing ACC competition is going to be an extremely hard process and the fans are going to want it done fast. I'd probably go with Musselman at Nevada that built his program quickly with transfers. Moser went grass roots, had less pressure and mid market competition to build his program over 6 years.

 

[JohnU]

Bringing Pitt back playing ACC competition is going to be an extremely hard process and the fans are going to want it done fast. I'd probably go with Musselman at Nevada that built his program quickly with transfers. Moser went grass roots, had less pressure and mid market competition to build his program over 6 years.

Loyola went from being a terrible team in the Horizon to the class of the Valley under Moser's tenure. Yes, it was a gradual process. No way would that strategy work in the ACC. You're talking 40 or so losses over 3 years.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Loyola went from being a terrible team in the Horizon to the class of the Valley under Moser's tenure. Yes, it was a gradual process. No way would that strategy work in the ACC. You're talking 40 or so losses over 3 years.

I agree. Having a lifetime job at Loyola is better than being fired at Pitt after 3 years unless it’s all about the money. He makes about 500k at Loyola so he could clear a ton at Pitt but his career might be done after that.

 

[The Q]

Bringing Pitt back playing ACC competition is going to be an extremely hard process and the fans are going to want it done fast. I'd probably go with Musselman at Nevada that built his program quickly with transfers. Moser went grass roots, had less pressure and mid market competition to build his program over 6 years.

yeah the only way you coudl possibly do a quick turn around is if you did the Iowa St or Nevada thing with a ton of transfers early on.

Or you got someone like Penny hardaway who is gonna start pulling monster recruiting classes quickly. But you better have some good Xs and Os coaches as your assistants. Let's see if Penny has that.

 

[JohnU]

I agree. Having a lifetime job at Loyola is better than being fired at Pitt after 3 years unless it’s all about the money. He makes about 500k at Loyola so he could clear a ton at Pitt but his career might be done after that.

He will likely want another gig eventually but I don't know that going to the ACC is necessarily a destination for a coach. It's not as easy to build a program when the opponents have $50 million in ammo to throw at their programs every year -- and I have NO idea if $50 million is a fact or not, so don't quote me.

The point is, if a coach wants to build a program from bad to competitive, there are plenty of examples of those who did it and will keep doing it. The Valley isn't a bad place to coach but there are programs in the MAC that need upgrading, or such schools as Butler or Xavier or Dayton, even St. Louis. Those coaching changes are not rare.

I think Moser will ride this pony for a couple more years. As somebody once asked a coach who took an underdog team to the title: You movin' on for a new challenge? The coach answered: It's a bigger challenge to win here the second time.

 

[Wild Turkey]

yeah the only way you coudl possibly do a quick turn around is if you did the Iowa St or Nevada thing with a ton of transfers early on.

Or you got someone like Penny hardaway who is gonna start pulling monster recruiting classes quickly. But you better have some good Xs and Os coaches as your assistants. Let's see if Penny has that.

The Penny Hardaway thing blows my mind as he has never coached in the college ranks (if I understand correctly). Dude is going to commit recruiting violations all over the place simply because he doesn’t know the rules. Bring him on as an assistant but HC!

 

[rmilia1]

The Penny Hardaway thing blows my mind as he has never coached in the college ranks (if I understand correctly). Dude is going to commit recruiting violations all over the place simply because he doesn’t know the rules. Bring him on as an assistant but HC!

He was in Blue Chips so he should be all good

 

[SteelersPride]

here comes the transfers!

 

[eaglesnut]

What a disaster.
Dixon was an excellent coach.
8 wins now? Wtf
Someone fucked up big time.

 

[douggie]