Is Michigan officially a dead program like Nebraska?

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Damn son, how old are you? Harbaugh isn't close to being on the same level as Schembechler or even Carr. He is nowhere near the best coach UM has ever had.

That should have read, "one of the best..."

 

[socaljim242]

He is the best coach they have had since Hoke. I think we can all agree on that.

 

[fishinabarrel]

 

[Red_Alert]

Actually, Texas has won 2 NC's in the last 46 years and has played for the NC in '78, '83, '05, and '09. I highly doubt Michigan will win another NC before Texas will, seeing how they have won only 1 since 1948 and haven't been a contender in a long time. Plus, Texas has more advantages than Michigan does being in a fertile recruiting state. One thing is for certain, Nebraska is fucking dog shit until the end of the world happens. Texas and Michigan will win another NC; it might take Texas another 40 something years, but we will win another one and will win a conference title soon. Not sure how long it will take Michigan, but I'm sure they will another one. What is guaranteed is Nebraska never will again. I agree that Texas has underachieved, without a doubt, but what won't happen is our program will never be irrelevant forever the way Nebraska is. Nebraska is a bowling and women's volleyball school now. All you guys are is a higher paid bitch who will never contribute to the B1G and just mooch off the success of tOSU, Michigan, PSU, Wiscy, etc. Not even a Nick Saban can save your has been program. I actually feel sorry for you guys b/c all you have in your state is Nebraska football. There is nothing else to look forward to and the fact that Nebraska is now Minnesota 2.0 has to be a shitty feeling. To know every year you have nothing to look forward to as far as contending for the B1G title or even being considered in the NC race from now until eternity, without a doubt, has to be one of the worst feelings ever. To know your season is over before it even starts, has to be a shitty feeling. You now know what it's like to be a KU, Minnesota, UK, Vandy, Indiana, Purdue, ISU, etc fan every year.

1971 - 2017 is 46 years. Did 'wonderlic 6' Vince Young do your math for you?

In the 24 years (1971 - 1995) of the Southwestern Conference...SMU, Baylor, Rice, and Houston had a combined more conference titles (11-9) than tejas.

I omitted Texas A&M, Arkansas, TCU, and Texas Tech, because then it really gets ugly for the underacievers in austin.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Maybe @TrustMeIamRight can explain to you why those should count against your defense.

Because they DO count against the defense. Just as defensive touchdowns count for the offense.

Until every level of football decides to change — they will continue to count the same way. It is why I said repeatedly, you wouldn’t find a link saying otherwise. When you talk PPG for or against a team — defensive td’s count for the offense. Turnovers on offense that result in a TD count against the defense.

 

[Red_Alert]

Fair enough, but let's also point out Nebraska doesn't win shit in the 90's had Switzer not resigned.

I notice you always talk 'what would have been' and 'what's going to be' as fact.

That is the crux of your posts. Little substance, just delusional thought.

 

[TexasExes98]

1971 - 2017 is 46 years. Did 'wonderlic 6' Vince Young do your math for you?

In the 24 years (1971 - 1995) of the Southwestern Conference...SMU, Baylor, Rice, and Houston had a combined more conference titles (11-9) than tejas.

I omitted Texas A&M, Arkansas, TCU, and Texas Tech, because then it really gets ugly for the underacievers in austin.

Ahhh, I see what you did. Omitted '70 to make your argument look better and you needed to combine 4 schools to make your argument look even better. Regardless, at least we can all agree Nebraska's program is dead and has been since '99. Enjoy being the KU of your conference

 

[TexasExes98]

I notice you always talk 'what would have been' and 'what's going to be' as fact.

That is the crux of your posts. Little substance, just delusional thought.

You the pot or the kettle? Switzer was Osborne's daddy and it wasn't close. Similar to how Texas owns your has been program.....Now go get your shinebox

 

[7Samurai13]

Because they DO count against the defense. Just as defensive touchdowns count for the offense.

Until every level of football decides to change — they will continue to count the same way. It is why I said repeatedly, you wouldn’t find a link saying otherwise. When you talk PPG for or against a team — defensive td’s count for the offense. Turnovers on offense that result in a TD count against the defense.

Explain that to Nava. He's the one wanting to take defensive scores against you out of your numbers.

 

[Red_Alert]

Ahhh, I see what you did. Omitted '70 to make your argument look better and you needed to combine 4 schools to make your argument look even better. Regardless, at least we can all agree Nebraska's program is dead and has been since '99. Enjoy being the KU of your conference

Omitting '70 doesn't take away from the past 46 years. Nearly 5 decades and tejas has just as many NC's as Michigan. ONE

If using actual fact as opposed to delusion, the tejas' program is far more dead than Nebraska's this decade.

tejas (49-44)
Nebraska (65-34)

Now that's underachievment.

But then again you'd rather talk 'What might have been if' and 'What might happen' as absolutes as opposed to what 'IS' and unknown.

 

[Moab]

From what I've seen of Michigan, they're on the right track. The biggest problem is they are way to bland on offense. It might be the skill players and QB, but with the players they have they should be able to get that O going. I haven't really paid attention to their OLine, so it could be an issue, I just don't know for sure.

 

[Ojb81]

Ohio is a talent rich state, not quite on Georgia's level, but close. I was more talking about Nebraska with my comment there.

Close? No, "close" is how far apart your eyes are from each other, backwoods. Ohio is easily Georgia's peer with regards to football talent

 

[Chewbaccer]

Close? No, "close" is how far apart your eyes are from each other, backwoods. Ohio is easily Georgia's peer with regards to football talent

Alls I know is that every site ranking states by football talent has Georgia ahead of Ohio, and Georgia is the second leading state of high school players getting recruited by D-1 programs per capita, second only to Florida.

NCAA map ranks states by how many football players become DI recruits

 

[Sgt Brutus]

high school players getting D-1 offers per capita

which is really a useless stat when talking about actual talent coming from states

Per capita in the total population, D.C. has the most four- and five-star recruits.

point proven

 

[Chewbaccer]

which is really a useless stat when talking about actual talent coming from states


point proven

I seem to notice a lot more players from Georgia than Ohio on the 2018 top 300, especially near the top.

And there's 114 players from Georgia on an NFL roster, to Ohio's 84.

 

[Red_Alert]

You the pot or the kettle? Switzer was Osborne's daddy and it wasn't close. Similar to how Texas owns your has been program.....Now go get your shinebox

You an OU nutswinger or just a Switzer nutswinger?

Switzer owned Osborne their first 7 years until Osborne switched to the triple option. The last 10 years were fairly even between the two.

However, once again as I've accurately pointed out you want to talk 'What might have been' as absolutes.

 

[Sgt Brutus]

I seem to notice a lot more players from Georgia than Ohio on the 2018 top 300, especially near the top.

And there's 114 players from Georgia on an NFL roster, to Ohio's 84.

Now those are useful stats

 

[mcnabb7542]

Again it was suppose to be a "down year" for Michigan, everyone knew that coming in.
I think it's way to early to say if Jimmy Jam is another failed coach there.

I say "no" not yet!

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

And that makes Michigan's recent history more relevant how?

You should probably check your facts pardna:
Bowl Records
21-24 Michigan
19-9 Miami

Overall wins:
617–351–19 (Miami)
939–335–36 (Michigan)

National Championships
11 (Michigan)
5 (Miami)


*Official statistics on players in trouble with the law, number of NCAA sanctions, and overall shittyness Miami clearly has the advantage

 

[PEOPLESCHICKEN]

Ohio has just as much homegrown talent as Georgia

Having been born/raised in Ohio that is definitely not true