I'll take it

[raptorlife4]

But a lot of work to do. Baby steps here.

Mason was great

Forwards still need to find the killer instinct.

 

[Maverick426h]

My question is, why is Luke Schenn only playing 15:11 per game? This guy was a rock for us last season and played nearly 22 minutes a game, but now he's our sixth defenseman? He's also netted one of only five goals we have this season on a really slick play.

Instead, we're playing 38 year old Timonen nearly 22 minutes a game. Seven of our forwards are playing more minutes than L. Schenn and Simmonds is right there with him too. I'm just wondering why we've suddenly abandoned this kid when he was one of the few plus players for us in a large role last season.

 

[dspice07]

My question is, why is Luke Schenn only playing 15:11 per game? This guy was a rock for us last season and played nearly 22 minutes a game, but now he's our sixth defenseman? He's also netted one of only five goals we have this season on a really slick play.

Instead, we're playing 38 year old Timonen nearly 22 minutes a game. Seven of our forwards are playing more minutes than L. Schenn and Simmonds is right there with him too. I'm just wondering why we've suddenly abandoned this kid when he was one of the few plus players for us in a large role last season.

Player Team Pos GP ES TOI ES TOI/G SH TOI SH TOI/G PP TOI PP TOI/G TOI TOI/G Shifts TOI/S Sft/G
1-6 of 6 results. 1
1 Kimmo Timonen PHI D 4 52:44 13:11 15:59 3:59 18:36 4:39 87:19 21:49 117 45.0 29.3
2 Braydon Coburn PHI D 4 64:02 16:00 18:54 4:43 0:56 0:14 83:52 20:58 116 43.0 29.0
3 Mark Streit PHI D 4 61:09 15:17 0:46 0:11 19:25 4:51 81:20 20:20 102 48.0 25.5
4 Andrej Meszaros PHI D 4 55:34 13:53 8:05 2:01 14:29 3:37 78:08 19:32 118 40.0 29.5
5 Nicklas Grossman PHI D 4 56:11 14:02 12:32 3:08 0:23 0:05 69:06 17:16 105 39.0 26.3
6 Luke Schenn PHI D 4 49:29 12:22 11:09 2:47 0:05 0:01 60:43 15:10 85 43.0 21.3

If this makes any sense for those that can follow the dam thing the Luke Schenn thing is mindboggling, he is by far the 6th defenseman time wise.

 

[Progeriakid]

How can a team with such talent look so lost?? It's a journey just to get out of their own zone, on a positive note Mason has looked great.

 

[awaz]

Player Team Pos GP ES TOI ES TOI/G SH TOI SH TOI/G PP TOI PP TOI/G TOI TOI/G Shifts TOI/S Sft/G
1-6 of 6 results. 1
1 Kimmo Timonen PHI D 4 52:44 13:11 15:59 3:59 18:36 4:39 87:19 21:49 117 45.0 29.3
2 Braydon Coburn PHI D 4 64:02 16:00 18:54 4:43 0:56 0:14 83:52 20:58 116 43.0 29.0
3 Mark Streit PHI D 4 61:09 15:17 0:46 0:11 19:25 4:51 81:20 20:20 102 48.0 25.5
4 Andrej Meszaros PHI D 4 55:34 13:53 8:05 2:01 14:29 3:37 78:08 19:32 118 40.0 29.5
5 Nicklas Grossman PHI D 4 56:11 14:02 12:32 3:08 0:23 0:05 69:06 17:16 105 39.0 26.3
6 Luke Schenn PHI D 4 49:29 12:22 11:09 2:47 0:05 0:01 60:43 15:10 85 43.0 21.3

If this makes any sense for those that can follow the dam thing the Luke Schenn thing is mindboggling, he is by far the 6th defenseman time wise.

thats a brutal graph to look at haha.. but what really stands out more to me is the fact that they're spreading out the time pretty well.. timonen leading the team at under 22 min/game is pretty solid.. grossmann has been a shot blocking machine so far this season, but i would still flip schenn and grossmann if i were coaching.. schenn would probably be 5th in TOI if i was in charge though.. and i really like schenn.. i just think the flyers are really balanced on defense across all 6 guys.. nothing elite, nothing horrific

 

[Maverick426h]

I would personally take a minute or two each from Timonen and Meszaros to give to Schenn and balance things out a bit more. Timonen is 38 and Meszaros is prone to injury, plus there's no reason why Luke Schenn should be getting anywhere from 2 to 6 minutes fewer than all of our other defensemen.

I'd go far enough to say that Streit should maybe even supplant Timonen on the top power play unit. At least he has a couple of assists. All Timonen is doing statistically to this point is taking minor penalties...

 

[dspice07]

I would personally take a minute or two each from Timonen and Meszaros to give to Schenn and balance things out a bit more. Timonen is 38 and Meszaros is prone to injury, plus there's no reason why Luke Schenn should be getting anywhere from 2 to 6 minutes fewer than all of our other defensemen.

I'd go far enough to say that Streit should maybe even supplant Timonen on the top power play unit. At least he has a couple of assists. All Timonen is doing statistically to this point is taking minor penalties...

guys Timmonen is brutally slow, what bugs me most about him right now is that he is a penalty machine.

 

[Maverick426h]

guys Timmonen is brutally slow, what bugs me most about him right now is that he is a penalty machine.

Yes. This is what I'm saying. If he's slow and he's taking penalties because of it, combined with the fact that he's 38, I would rest him more. All of our defensemen are capable of logging 17-18 minutes, but Schenn is way below that and he amazingly has our only goal from the defense. I don't know if Timonen can handle the role of most used player on our entire team this year. Or let's put it this way. I don't think we want him logging more minutes than anyone else. Four minor penalties in four games is too many.

 

[banditshcky11]

I think the Schenn issue will work itself out. It seemed that Lavy was keeping him off the ice the first 3 games due to over juggling the lines & he hasn't been a main stay on the PK like he was last year thus far. all our guys should be around the 18 min mark give or take depending on their special team assignments and how the game itself goes. I would like most of you agree the L Schenn should be playing more but now that they re-paired him with Timo his ToI will inevitably go up.

 

[Maverick426h]

I just think it's time to lock 'n load here. If we don't start scoring 3-4 goals a game like I know we can, we're going to get absolutely buried in this conference.

A big part of this is our power play that's operating at only 10.5%, or about half of what it should be.

 

[Vadered]

I just think it's time to lock 'n load here. If we don't start scoring 3-4 goals a game like I know we can, we're going to get absolutely buried in this conference.

A big part of this is our power play that's operating at only 10.5%, or about half of what it should be.

Another is that our shooting percentage as a team is sub 5%, which is freaking terrible (but likely to regress to the mean over the season, meaning it SHOULD go up)

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

I wouldn't be so much concerned about the scoring output as much as I would be concerned about how much time the opposing teams spend with the puck in the Flyers' zone. Seems as if getting the puck out of their own zone is the biggest problem for the Flyers right now. At least that's the impression I have gotten from watching the Flyer games. Good thing for the Flyers Mason is really proving himself to be a very capable starting goalie or else Flyers would be majorly screwed playing so much time in their own zone.

 

[lhagen931]

it's time to get Timonen off the books considering he's too old.

 

[Peter Gozintite]

I'll take it

I bet you will....


sorry had to. " walk of shame"

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

it's time to get Timonen off the books considering he's too old.

I don't think that would be a good move right now. Timonen & Streit are the only puck moving dmen in the system other than Robert Hagg who is a ways away from carrying the puck moving responsibilities for a NHL team. I wouldn't move Timonen until they get another puck moving dman to replace him. Otherwise, they're back to where they were last season.

 

[awaz]

I don't think that would be a good move right now. Timonen & Streit are the only puck moving dmen in the system other than Robert Hagg who is a ways away from carrying the puck moving responsibilities for a NHL team. I wouldn't move Timonen until they get another puck moving dman to replace him. Otherwise, they're back to where they were last season.

ghostisbehere will hopefully be solid too, he might be a little closer to the NHL than hagg

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

ghostisbehere will hopefully be solid too, he might be a little closer to the NHL than hagg

Don't know too much about him, will have to look him up.

 

[awaz]

Don't know too much about him, will have to look him up.

it'd help if i spelled his name right for ya haha.. it's gostisbehere.. he plays at union college.. played for the us wjc team last year

 

[DoobeeDoobeeDoo]

it'd help if i spelled his name right for ya haha.. it's gostisbehere.. he plays at union college.. played for the us wjc team last year

Just looked him up, I didn't know about him until now. Still tho, seems a little young to carry the offensive responsibilities from the point. I would still stick it out with Timonen until some of the prospects develop. Either that or bring someone in.

 

[awaz]

Just looked him up, I didn't know about him until now. Still tho, seems a little young to carry the offensive responsibilities from the point. I would still stick it out with Timonen until some of the prospects develop. Either that or bring someone in.

oh ya, me too. i love timonen. he could be bad all season and i'd still want him on the team next year

just saying the flyers have a couple guys in the system that might be able to carry the load in 2-3 years