If Kenny Bell Played in an Elite Passing Offense

[iruletheskool]

Man Baker Steinkuhler sure was a great OT for us




that's what Rivals listed him as afterall

 

[Red_Alert]

Man Baker Steinkuhler sure was a great OT for us




that's what Rivals listed him as afterall

Is Winston playing a different position than what Rivals said he would?

No.

More Fail by irule.

 

[iruletheskool]

Yes, he's playing a pro-style QB position



And runs well as such

 

[Red_Alert]

Yes, he's playing a pro-style QB position



And runs well as such

irule = Milos

 

[oaknightshockey1]

Here are the 2013 Top 10 following the end of the regular season (including CCG's) and their QB's.

1. Florida St
Winston (R/S FR) - Dual Threat

2. Auburn
Marshall (JR) - Dual Threat

3. Alabama
McCarron (R/S SR) - Pro Style

4. Michigan St
Cook (R/S SO) - Pro Style

5. Stanford
Hogan (JR) - Pro Style

6. Baylor
Petty (R/S JR) - Pro Style

7. Ohio St
Miller (JR) - Dual Threat

8. Missouri
Franklin (SR) - Dual Threat

9. South Carolina
Shaw (SR) - Dual Threat

10. Oregon
Mariota (R/S SO) - Dual Threat

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Dual Threat (6) , Pro Style (4)

NCAA® National Rankings

Total offense 2013:
1. Baylor (Bryce Petty)
2. Oregon (Marcus Mariota)
3. Fresno St. (Derek Carr)
4. Texas A&M (Johnny Manziel)
5. Northern Illinois (Jordan Lynch)

Scoring offense 2013:
1. Baylor (Bryce Petty)
2. Florida St. (Jameis Winston)
3. Ohio St. (Braxton Miller)
4. Oregon (Marcus Mariota)
5. Texas A&M (Johnny Manziel)

You really are making yourself look like an ignorant ass. I'd quit now if I were you.

It makes more sense to me to look at the top offenses...some of the schools with great offenses had shitty defenses. There is a LOT of DT QBs in there.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

And RA...would you classify Petty as pro-style? Dude had 14 rushing touchdowns...

 

[Red_Alert]

And RA...would you classify Petty as pro-style? Dude had 14 rushing touchdowns...

2.2 YPC?

 

[oaknightshockey1]

2.2 YPC?

I didn't really look that closely and didn't watch Baylor that much last year so I don't really have enough info to speak on it. I just figured they would run a similar offense to what RGIII ran.

 

[Red_Alert]

I didn't really look that closely and didn't watch Baylor that much last year so I don't really have enough info to speak on it. I just figured they would run a similar offense to what RGIII ran.

Think Vince Young when thinking the ultimate Dual Threat.

Vincent Young - Yahoo! Sports

Vince Young Stats | College Football at Sports-Reference.com





Of course in the NFL he had to play the seven-step drop, so that means he wasn't a Dual Threat. - irule.

 

[iruletheskool]

Jameis Winston plays absolutely NOTHING like VY

 

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Jameis Winston plays absolutely NOTHING like VY

That doesn't mean he can't.

He is a Dual Threat QB. It's just that simple irule.


Distract from that point all you want. You only look more foolish.

 

[Brasky]

Jameis Winston and Russell Wilson probably compare the best.

irule is trying to say that a true dual threat QB has the ability to run just like a running back and has a decent arm.

There's no one true definition of a dual threat. There's a grey area, but irule is just dead set on having all these specific characteristics that make up a DT. The problem is, I have yet to see him list off any real reasons. He just goes OMG YOU'RE SO DUMB AND WRONG. OMG THEY PLAY NOTHING ALIKE. OMG HE'S A PRO STYLE, DUH.

 

[iruletheskool]

No i just think DT QBs arent capable of slinging it around in a pro-style offense

Jameis to me is a typical pro talent who happens to run well

 

[Brasky]

No i just think DT QBs arent capable of slinging it around in a pro-style offense

Jameis to me is a typical pro talent who happens to run well

Manziel too?

 

[iruletheskool]

No, i cant see Manziel running a typical pro-style offense


Nevermind, my point is lost and I dont know how to word what Im saying without writing a novel

 

[jedburks]

I know this is the kiss of death for Irule but I agree with him.

I say Winston is more of a mobile QB than a dual threat. Kind of like Russell Wilson. To me, a dual threat QB throws it well enough to get by and when he runs he goes. A mobile QB in my view is a guy that can throw and run but when he is getting ready to run he is always still looking down field to throw before he crosses the LOS. Like Taylor or Young or Mariota or other guys like that. When they scramble it is run all the way. When Wilson, Winston, Hogan (Stanford) and guys like that scramble then their is always still that option of a run/pass. Winston does not turn into a RB when he is running like Young, Taylor, Miller, or Mariota do.

 

[iruletheskool]

Thanks jed

 

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VY was a 65.2% passer at Texas. Is that "well enough to get by"?

A dual threat is a dual threat. They are a threat to run or pass. You have to contain them. It has nothing to do with how they are primarily being used. To be in a primarily passing offense does not nullify their dual threat capability.

And WTF is this "scramble" shit?

Drop back passers don't scramble. - bigred472

 

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Top 10 Offenses for 2014

Compliments of IowaJerms.
http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/...8-top-10-projected-offenses-espn-insider.html

Oregon Ducks headline top 10 offenses for 2014 season - College Football - ESPN

1. Oregon
QB - Marcus Mariota (Dual Threat)

2. Florida St
QB - Jameis Winston (Dual Threat)

3. Auburn
QB - Nick Marshall (Dual Threat)

4. Baylor
QB - Bryce Petty (Pro Style) Argument can be made for Dual Threat

5. Ohio St
QB - Braxton Miller (Dual Threat)

6. UCLA
QB - Brett Hundley (Dual Threat)

7. Texas A&M
QB - ???
Matt Joeckel (Pro Style)
Kenny Hill (Dual Threat)
Kyle Allen (Pro Style)

8. South Carolina
QB - Dylan Thompson (Pro Style)

9. Arizona St
QB - Taylor Kelly (Dual Threat)

10. Alabama
QB - ???
Jacob Coker (Pro Style)
Blake Sims (Dual Threat)

 

[Red_Alert]

Tommy Armstrong through 3 weeks.

2013 Rushing: 67 for 202 Yds (3.01 YPC)(22.44 YPG)(2 TD's) (9 games split time w/RK)
2014 Rushing: 27 for 258 Yds (9.56 YPC)(86.00 YPG)(2 TD's)

2013 Passing: 68 of 131 for 966 Yds (107 YPG)(51.9%)(9 TD's)(8 INT's) (9 games split time w/RK)
2014 Passing: 43 of 81 for 773 Yds (257 YPG)(53.1%)(7 TD's)(1 INT)