I'd rather have Tristan or Whiteside Poll

[WiggyRuss]

Show me a link where it mentions anything of him being under constant supervision you fucking liar

it said Alonzo Mourning and Juwan Howard follow him around everywhere!

Ira Winderman: Whiteside's dual degrees coming from Juwan, Zo

THOSE ARE HIS BABYSITTERS!!! he is a GROWN MAN WITH BABYSITTERS lol


nowyo- u might say- all those passed issues--- they are irrelevant--- Whitesie has moved passed those, matured. etc........no way could i definitively tell you that is not true. maybe he has. Maybe he is not the guy that played his way off the SACRAMENTO kings for acting like a clown and got sent overseas to play ineve ry podunk league that would take him.

Do you really want to bet the future of your franchise on it though? You want to bet the future of your franchise an a 100$ million dollars on a center thats game is best suited to the NBA of 20 years ago? Who is a total fish out of water in todays pace and space league? Not only that--- but guys with GREAT attitudes and work ethics have seen their will to excel diminshed after getting their big guaranteed contract?-- will Whiteside?-- who knows--- you can take the gamble that he wont-----

add all that stuff up- and i truly believe its going to be a DISASTER!

 

[WiggyRuss]

How to Fix the Miami Heat Right Now

Hassan Whiteside comes off the bench.
That's right: Hassan Whiteside and his double-doubles get exiled to the bench. Yesterday. ASAP. The biggest problem with the Miami Heat is that Goran Dragic is handcuffed by the team's style of play — and so much of the reason the Heat cannot placate him is because you can't play uptempo ball with a seven-footer clogging the paint. This isn't to say Whiteside isn't useless — he's extremely useful! Just give him his own minutes to play his style around a group that is catered to it. Whiteside does not deserve an Alonzo Mourning babysitter and a starting position just because. This is the Miami Heat. Players come here and get on their best behavior, not the other way around.

Ethan J. Skolnick: Deep Miami Heat team sends message to Hassan Whiteside

your boy skolnick too! its as easy a 2nd google search

i am anxiously awaiting your forthcoming apology

 

[bksballer89]

You brought up an article from 11 months ago lol. On top of that it seems more like Zo is more of a friend and at that time was helping him get used to the NBA lifestyle. He did not even play a full year at that time.

"Zo gives him great off-the-court guidance," Spoelstra explained. "And occasionally they will go out to dinner. It's an unbelievable role model and example for Hassan to see, of what it means to be a Miami Heat who has had great success as a Miami Heat center, but also how to be a great professional on the court, off the court, in the community, all of that."

What is wrong with this? It isn't supervision. It's an issue to have a role model? This has nothing to do with supervising

"That's a blessing," Whiteside said. "I mean, I remember watching Zo and just all the things he did for the game. It's more off-the-court stuff we talk about. It's staying positive, not getting too down, if you have a bad game. Or if I have a great game, don’t get too high. Just keep putting in the work and everything is going to be OK."

Yep its an issue to have a role model who played in the league for the same team at the same position as you. Guys are no longer allowed to learn from an assistant coach who played in the league for many years without it being looked as babysitting.

This article does nothing. Its says nothing about babysitting. It seems like him and Zo became great friends outside of the basketball court....but its an issue as everything is with Whiteside

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

You brought up an article from 11 months ago lol. On top of that it seems more like Zo is more of a friend and at that time was helping him get used to the NBA lifestyle. He did not even play a full year at that time.

"Zo gives him great off-the-court guidance," Spoelstra explained. "And occasionally they will go out to dinner. It's an unbelievable role model and example for Hassan to see, of what it means to be a Miami Heat who has had great success as a Miami Heat center, but also how to be a great professional on the court, off the court, in the community, all of that."

What is wrong with this? It isn't supervision. It's an issue to have a role model? This has nothing to do with supervising

"That's a blessing," Whiteside said. "I mean, I remember watching Zo and just all the things he did for the game. It's more off-the-court stuff we talk about. It's staying positive, not getting too down, if you have a bad game. Or if I have a great game, don’t get too high. Just keep putting in the work and everything is going to be OK."

Yep its an issue to have a role model who played in the league for the same team at the same position as you. Guys are no longer allowed to learn from an assistant coach who played in the league for many years without it being looked as babysitting.

This article does nothing. Its says nothing about babysitting. It seems like him and Zo became great friends outside of the basketball court....but its an issue as everything is with Whiteside

The main thing that Zo, Howard, Spoelstra and others wanted to do was help Whiteside become a better basketball player and they succeeded 10000%

How many other players have we heard/read about that wouldn't work with Hakeem, Kareem, etc.. for whatever reasons?

Whiteside wants to be the best NOW.
I don't know or care about what his issues were 3-5 years ago.
Its irrelevant.

 

[WiggyRuss]

You brought up an article from 11 months ago lol. On top of that it seems more like Zo is more of a friend and at that time was helping him get used to the NBA lifestyle. He did not even play a full year at that time.

"Zo gives him great off-the-court guidance," Spoelstra explained. "And occasionally they will go out to dinner. It's an unbelievable role model and example for Hassan to see, of what it means to be a Miami Heat who has had great success as a Miami Heat center, but also how to be a great professional on the court, off the court, in the community, all of that."

What is wrong with this? It isn't supervision. It's an issue to have a role model? This has nothing to do with supervising

"That's a blessing," Whiteside said. "I mean, I remember watching Zo and just all the things he did for the game. It's more off-the-court stuff we talk about. It's staying positive, not getting too down, if you have a bad game. Or if I have a great game, don’t get too high. Just keep putting in the work and everything is going to be OK."

Yep its an issue to have a role model who played in the league for the same team at the same position as you. Guys are no longer allowed to learn from an assistant coach who played in the league for many years without it being looked as babysitting.

This article does nothing. Its says nothing about babysitting. It seems like him and Zo became great friends outside of the basketball court....but its an issue as everything is with Whiteside

lol give me a break

Mourning's main goal is keeping Whiteside grounded during the wave of attention. Whiteside has been arguably the Heat's most discussed player since becoming a mainstay in the rotation.

"Alonzo Mourning is here to keep him even keel," Wade said. "That's his job. Our job as teammates is to keep him confident, keep him focused." = Alonzo is his babysitter.....you know that and i know that---- its a good thing too- TOTALLY agree its a good thing to try and keep him in line

im sorry though- like i said above

no way on Gods green earth can i tell you 100% that Whiteside will screw up- maybe he is a changed guy....i dont have a window into his soul that is for sure.

What do we know?

he came into the league and fell in the draft because he was an asshole

he couldnt break the rotation of the SACRAMENTO KINGS because he had a poor work ethic and was an asshole

he got cut and no one would pick him up and he had to go play all over podunk leagues overseas because he was an asshole.

he gets his chance back in the NBA- and still has his teammates and coaches call him out for behavioral issues.....he develops a reputation for being a hothead that you can bait into stupid fouls and stupid plays. He cheap shots multiple players and is suspended multiple times. multiple articles are written how thed efense is actually better without him- and he hunts blocks and stats at the expense of winning

If i was an NBA GM i would run the other way. NO WAY would i put my franchise, my reputation, my owners 100$ million dollars on the line for that guy--- HOPING that he is truly changed


ON TOP OF THAT- his skill set is antiquated- todays pace and space league is making centers like him less and less important.

so you are gonna take all that risk- for a guy like that with a skill set like that?

DISASTER

 

[bksballer89]

it said Alonzo Mourning and Juwan Howard follow him around everywhere!

Ira Winderman: Whiteside's dual degrees coming from Juwan, Zo

THOSE ARE HIS BABYSITTERS!!! he is a GROWN MAN WITH BABYSITTERS lol


nowyo- u might say- all those passed issues--- they are irrelevant--- Whitesie has moved passed those, matured. etc........no way could i definitively tell you that is not true. maybe he has. Maybe he is not the guy that played his way off the SACRAMENTO kings for acting like a clown and got sent overseas to play ineve ry podunk league that would take him.

Do you really want to bet the future of your franchise on it though? You want to bet the future of your franchise an a 100$ million dollars on a center thats game is best suited to the NBA of 20 years ago? Who is a total fish out of water in todays pace and space league? Not only that--- but guys with GREAT attitudes and work ethics have seen their will to excel diminshed after getting their big guaranteed contract?-- will Whiteside?-- who knows--- you can take the gamble that he wont-----

add all that stuff up- and i truly believe its going to be a DISASTER!

Never once said in the article that they followed him everywhere. Why is it an issue if he tries to become a better center? If you can read, Howard clearly helps him with his game which is no a problem according to you.

 

[trojanfan12]

Am I the only one who noticed how Wiggy completely ignored the question I asked? I didn't ask who gms would take. I didn't ask who was younger. I asked can Andre Drummond shoot or pass

No. It's what he always does.

 

[bksballer89]

Hey show me where it said they follow him around everywhere. Howard doesn't follow him anywhere. Its all about being a better center and putting in work in the gym. As for Zo, it said they OCCASIONALLY go out for dinner. Not frequently. Not nightly. But occasionally. Another word I don't think you know the meaning of.

 

[bksballer89]

The main thing that Zo, Howard, Spoelstra and others wanted to do was help Whiteside become a better basketball player and they succeeded 10000%

How many other players have we heard/read about that wouldn't work with Hakeem, Kareem, etc.. for whatever reasons?

Whiteside wants to be the best NOW.
I don't know or care about what his issues were 3-5 years ago.
Its irrelevant.

Clearly to Wiggy its an issue that he works with an hall of famer and another great player to become a better person on and off the court. Also if you read Ira's article that he linked, there was not one mentioned of behavior issues. Its all about becoming a better basketball player

 

[WiggyRuss]

lol give me a break

Mourning's main goal is keeping Whiteside grounded during the wave of attention. Whiteside has been arguably the Heat's most discussed player since becoming a mainstay in the rotation.

"Alonzo Mourning is here to keep him even keel," Wade said. "That's his job. Our job as teammates is to keep him confident, keep him focused." = Alonzo is his babysitter.....you know that and i know that---- its a good thing too- TOTALLY agree its a good thing to try and keep him in line

im sorry though- like i said above

no way on Gods green earth can i tell you 100% that Whiteside will screw up- maybe he is a changed guy....i dont have a window into his soul that is for sure.

What do we know?

he came into the league and fell in the draft because he was an asshole

he couldnt break the rotation of the SACRAMENTO KINGS because he had a poor work ethic and was an asshole

he got cut and no one would pick him up and he had to go play all over podunk leagues overseas because he was an asshole.

he gets his chance back in the NBA- and still has his teammates and coaches call him out for behavioral issues.....he develops a reputation for being a hothead that you can bait into stupid fouls and stupid plays. He cheap shots multiple players and is suspended multiple times. multiple articles are written how thed efense is actually better without him- and he hunts blocks and stats at the expense of winning

If i was an NBA GM i would run the other way. NO WAY would i put my franchise, my reputation, my owners 100$ million dollars on the line for that guy--- HOPING that he is truly changed


ON TOP OF THAT- his skill set is antiquated- todays pace and space league is making centers like him less and less important.

so you are gonna take all that risk- for a guy like that with a skill set like that?

DISASTER

no?? no replies to this?

because you all know its true.......

who am i "BKSBALLE WHY DONT YOU RESPOND TO THIS POST!! ISNT IT FUNNY YOU NEVER ERSPOND TO POSTS!! BLAH BLAH BLAH"

 

[Bulletz]

Definitely feel like this is turning into the 16-17 Hassan Whiteside thread.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

no?? no replies to this?

because you all know its true.......

who am i "BKSBALLE WHY DONT YOU RESPOND TO THIS POST!! ISNT IT FUNNY YOU NEVER ERSPOND TO POSTS!! BLAH BLAH BLAH"

You do nothing but rip Whiteside which is fine if it's your opinion BUT, you shouldn't duck the question as to why 6 teams were lining up to offer him a max IF he's such everything you say he is.

Ignoring it is just a typical, bitch move, so it's easy to understand why it's happening from you.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Definitely feel like this is turning into the 16-17 Hassan Whiteside thread.

which is funny because the heat and whiteside are one of the most irrelevant teams i nthe nba this year

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Definitely feel like this is turning into the 16-17 Hassan Whiteside thread.

Of course.
One wasn't enough.

Didn't you know Tristan >>>>>Whiteside?

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

which is funny because the heat and whiteside are one of the most irrelevant teams i nthe nba this year

Coming from a bandwagon fan of a team who was irrelevant for decades and will be again soon enough.

We're going to have a down YEAR, and it's mostly orchestrated because Bosh got sick.

 

[trojanfan12]

Sorry fellas, but the Whiteside argument belongs here.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

lol give me a break

Mourning's main goal is keeping Whiteside grounded during the wave of attention. Whiteside has been arguably the Heat's most discussed player since becoming a mainstay in the rotation.

"Alonzo Mourning is here to keep him even keel," Wade said. "That's his job. Our job as teammates is to keep him confident, keep him focused." = Alonzo is his babysitter.....you know that and i know that---- its a good thing too- TOTALLY agree its a good thing to try and keep him in line

im sorry though- like i said above

no way on Gods green earth can i tell you 100% that Whiteside will screw up- maybe he is a changed guy....i dont have a window into his soul that is for sure.

What do we know?

he came into the league and fell in the draft because he was an asshole

he couldnt break the rotation of the SACRAMENTO KINGS because he had a poor work ethic and was an asshole

he got cut and no one would pick him up and he had to go play all over podunk leagues overseas because he was an asshole.

he gets his chance back in the NBA- and still has his teammates and coaches call him out for behavioral issues.....he develops a reputation for being a hothead that you can bait into stupid fouls and stupid plays. He cheap shots multiple players and is suspended multiple times. multiple articles are written how thed efense is actually better without him- and he hunts blocks and stats at the expense of winning

If i was an NBA GM i would run the other way. NO WAY would i put my franchise, my reputation, my owners 100$ million dollars on the line for that guy--- HOPING that he is truly changed


ON TOP OF THAT- his skill set is antiquated- todays pace and space league is making centers like him less and less important.

so you are gonna take all that risk- for a guy like that with a skill set like that?

DISASTER

What do we know?

What we do know is that he is the only NBA player in the world , ever, to go from a minimum to a max in 1 year because 6 teams were hoping he'd choose them.

 

[bksballer89]

Sorry fellas, but the Whiteside argument belongs here.

No problem. I apologize but wiggy decided to take it there......as always

 

[bksballer89]

which is funny because the heat and whiteside are one of the most irrelevant teams i nthe nba this year

Unlike you we don't disappear when our team is irrelevant.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Unlike you we don't disappear when our team is irrelevant.

please...you are just butt hurt and didnt once address the very real and factual concerns that i laid out in my post.

you may not think there is a difference between drummond and whiteside

but yo ucannot possibly discuss my arguments from post 1505 as nonsense......on the contrary- they are very real and very legitimate concerns that A. whiteside has had major behavioral issues in the passed and B. the pace and space in todays game is making centers that cant pass, cant shoot and cant guard on the perimeter like whiteside- less and less important......when you combine those 2 factors - its obvious to me that whiteside will be a disaster. no one has laid out a coherent argument stating otherwise because they know its true.

like i said- maybe whiteside is a changed man, maybe he is no longer the guy that fellin the draft because he was an ahole, that couldnt crack the kings rotation because he was an ahole, that got blackballed from the nba because he was an ahole, that got called out my teammates and coaches for his behavior, that cheap shotted multiple players and got suspended multiple times since he has been back- that articles were written about how he hunts stats at the expense of winning etc... etc. etc....

maybe he is not that guy anymore---- but as a GM- are you gonna lay your franchise, your reputation, your owners 100 million dollars on the line because you HOPE that a guy is not the ahole he used to be? and on top of that- his skill set is antiquated and incrasingly irrelevant in todays league?

i sure wouldnt. surefire recipe to stunt your franchise, and get yourself fired and waste a lot of your owners money.