I'd rather have Tristan or Whiteside Poll

[bksballer89]

you guys act like i dont acknowledge that he is a good player....hes a solid player- and has his uses---- but- in todays NBA- i would NEVER EVER give a quarter of my payroll to a center who cant shoot, cant pass, and cant guard on the perimeter--- who ON TOP OF THAT- needs to be babysat since he has had some many problems.

you will never win with a "traditional" center as your focal point- who is not even that good--- who you ADMIT is not good enough to help you win games as your best player.

you are at such a HUUUUUGE disadvantage when you have a player who cant shoot, cant pass, and cant guard on the perimeter in todays NBA.....teams like the Cavs and Warriors with multiple big men who are versatile and can shoot, and can guard on the perimeter will DESTROY you. You simply have no chance.

building around a center that cant shoot, cant pass, and cant guard on the perimeter is a formula for outright failure. You guys know this. I know this. Everyone that watches the modern NBA knows this- when you compound the guys behavioral issues on top- and the fact that he is clearly no Andre Drummond- its clear.....that its just never ever gonna work.

What behavioral issues? Are you confusing Whiteside with Cousin? Can Andre Drummond shoot, pass, or guard on the perimeter? Find some new material on why you hate Whiteside

 

[bksballer89]

Can you please stop acting like Drummond is shaq or something lol. The only thing he does better than Whiteside is on the ball defense and is slightly better at rebounding.

 

[bksballer89]

I'm sure Wiggy rather to give 100 million to Steven Adams instead of Whiteside. Dude we don't take you seriously on here.

 

[bksballer89]

You also really need to stop bringing up this babysitting issue.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

you guys act like i dont acknowledge that he is a good player....hes a solid player- and has his uses---- but- in todays NBA- i would NEVER EVER give a quarter of my payroll to a center who cant shoot, cant pass, and cant guard on the perimeter--- who ON TOP OF THAT- needs to be babysat since he has had some many problems.

you will never win with a "traditional" center as your focal point- who is not even that good--- who you ADMIT is not good enough to help you win games as your best player.

you are at such a HUUUUUGE disadvantage when you have a player who cant shoot, cant pass, and cant guard on the perimeter in todays NBA.....teams like the Cavs and Warriors with multiple big men who are versatile and can shoot, and can guard on the perimeter will DESTROY you. You simply have no chance.

building around a center that cant shoot, cant pass, and cant guard on the perimeter is a formula for outright failure. You guys know this. I know this. Everyone that watches the modern NBA knows this- when you compound the guys behavioral issues on top- and the fact that he is clearly no Andre Drummond- its clear.....that its just never ever gonna work.

The reason the Heat can't compete with the Warriors and or Cavs (as examples) is because they have James, Kyrie, Durant and Curry.
NOT because of what Whiteside makes.
On top of that, you seem to keep ignoring that a bigger % of our cap space is out with blood clots and can't be replaced THIS season.

Yes, several teams in the East who finished behind us improved last summer to the point where they are ahead of us, but reality is, none of them are really very good.

We shall see, but give me our current top core of 4-5 players, add to that what should be 2 very nice draft picks and our 40-60M?? of potential cap space next summer, and I'd guess those teams that passed us for a year will once again be below us.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

You also really need to stop bringing up this babysitting issue.

Nobody is in the gym more than Whiteside.
Nobody stays home more than Whiteside.
He pretty much shows his every move on instagram/snapchat.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

you guys act like i dont acknowledge that he is a good player....hes a solid player- and has his uses---- but- in todays NBA- i would NEVER EVER give a quarter of my payroll to a center who cant shoot, cant pass, and cant guard on the perimeter--- who ON TOP OF THAT- needs to be babysat since he has had some many problems.

you will never win with a "traditional" center as your focal point- who is not even that good--- who you ADMIT is not good enough to help you win games as your best player.

you are at such a HUUUUUGE disadvantage when you have a player who cant shoot, cant pass, and cant guard on the perimeter in todays NBA.....teams like the Cavs and Warriors with multiple big men who are versatile and can shoot, and can guard on the perimeter will DESTROY you. You simply have no chance.

building around a center that cant shoot, cant pass, and cant guard on the perimeter is a formula for outright failure. You guys know this. I know this. Everyone that watches the modern NBA knows this- when you compound the guys behavioral issues on top- and the fact that he is clearly no Andre Drummond- its clear.....that its just never ever gonna work.

Why were 5 other teams who've never even been around him to have a true feel of his character/work ethic willing to offer him a max?

 

[bksballer89]

Whiteside who is now in his 3rd season with Miami has picked up 12 T's and 2 flagrants fouls.

Andre Drummond in the same period has picked up 14 T's & 2 flagrant fouls.

Cousins in that time period has picked up 33 T's and 0 flagrant fouls.

Yeah let's stop with this Whiteside is such a terrible person with issues lol

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Whiteside who is now in his 3rd season with Miami has picked up 12 T's and 2 flagrants fouls.

Andre Drummond in the same period has picked up 14 T's & 2 flagrant fouls.

Cousins in that time period has picked up 33 T's and 0 flagrant fouls.

Yeah let's stop with this Whiteside is such a terrible person with issues lol

Cousins is a total bitch.
I watched him very closely last night.
Never seen a player cry so much over nothing. (Wade is a close second).

 

[WiggyRuss]

What behavioral issues? Are you confusing Whiteside with Cousin? Can Andre Drummond shoot, pass, or guard on the perimeter? Find some new material on why you hate Whiteside

Andre Drummond busted into the league at 19 years old. He turned 23 in August.

Last year- at the age of 22- he led his team to 44 wins, 16 pts, 15 boards, and a block and a half and a steal and a half a game and 0.8 apg.....at age 22 Whiteside was being benched in Sac. before eventually being blackballed from the league.

Nobody is in the gym more than Whiteside.
Nobody stays home more than Whiteside.
He pretty much shows his every move on instagram/snapchat.

how do you expect to win with a center that cant guard the perimeter, cant pass, and cant shoot, and has behavioral issues, taking up a quarter of your payroll in todays modern NBA?

even if Whiteside was a model citizen i would never give him that money just based on his antiquated skill set alone. Throw in all his issues and its a disaster waiting to happen.

Time will tell though guys. I am confident that once again- i will be vindicated by the passage of time.

 

[bksballer89]

Andre Drummond busted into the league at 19 years old. He turned 23 in August.

Last year- at the age of 22- he led his team to 44 wins, 16 pts, 15 boards, and a block and a half and a steal and a half a game and 0.8 apg.....at age 22 Whiteside was being benched in Sac. before eventually being blackballed from the league.

how do you expect to win with a center that cant guard the perimeter, cant pass, and cant shoot, and has behavioral issues, taking up a quarter of your payroll in todays modern NBA?

even if Whiteside was a model citizen i would never give him that money just based on his antiquated skill set alone. Throw in all his issues and its a disaster waiting to happen.

Time will tell though guys. I am confident that once again- i will be vindicated by the passage of time.

Can Andre Drummond pass or shoot?

What issues are you speaking of? Demarcus Cousins temper issues concerns me much more. "Throw in all his issues" lol.

You would think this guy was a damn murderer with a history of getting locked up the way you always talking about all his issues.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Can Andre Drummond pass or shoot?

What issues are you speaking of? Demarcus Cousins temper issues concerns me much more. "Throw in all his issues" lol.

You would think this guy was a damn murderer with a history of getting locked up the way you always talking about all his issues.

Andre Drummond is way better than Whiteside despite being 4 years younger. Drummond has not even entered his prime yet- and he already has years of hardwork and experience under his belt. No gm in the game would take whiteside over drummond.

 

[bksballer89]

Let's not forget Drummond just received 5 yr/125 from Detroit. He must be an amazing shooter and passer for the center position.

 

[bksballer89]

Andre Drummond is way better than Whiteside despite being 4 years younger. Drummond has not even entered his prime yet- and he already has years of hardwork and experience under his belt. No gm in the game would take whiteside over drummond.

You didn't answer the question so I will ask again. Can Andre Drummond pass or shoot? Answer the damn question

 

[bksballer89]

Am I the only one who noticed how Wiggy completely ignored the question I asked? I didn't ask who gms would take. I didn't ask who was younger. I asked can Andre Drummond shoot or pass

 

[WiggyRuss]

You didn't answer the question so I will ask again. Can Andre Drummond pass or shoot? Answer the damn question

no.....absolutely not....cant shoot or pass a lick- however, at 23 years old- he already has LED a team to the playoffs and 44 wins- and does not have serious behavioral concerns- and he is BETTER than Whiteside. Plus Drummond absolutely moves much better on the perimeter then whiteside and is much les a liability in the PnR.

Plus you dont have to worry about Drummond having major behavioral issues like Whiteside. I imagine every GM in the game would be MUCH MUCH MUCH more comfortable giving a guy like drummond tens of millions of dollars- then a guy who got blackballed from the league for being lazy and combatative with teammates.

plus- drummonddid have 67 assists last year... absolutely not a good passer- but he is not one of the biggest black holes in NBA history like Whiteside, who had 29!!! yes 29 assists in the ENTIRE SEASON!!! i mean- thats CRAZY.

the truly amazing thing to me about Whiteside is he gets this 2nd chance- and CONTINUES to cheap shot guys, continues to have his coaches and teammates call him out for his behavior. How could you POSSIBLY think its a good idea to give someone like that the keys to your franchise and devote so much of y our payroll to that guy? Its insanity.

plus drummond doesnt hunt stats at the expense of his team like whiteside--- and he doesnt care what his NBA2k rating is more then he cares about winning.

 

[bksballer89]

no.....absolutely not....cant shoot or pass a lick- however, at 23 years old- he already has LED a team to the playoffs and 44 wins- and does not have serious behavioral concerns- and he is BETTER than Whiteside. Plus Drummond absolutely moves much better on the perimeter then whiteside and is much les a liability in the PnR.

Plus you dont have to worry about Drummond having major behavioral issues like Whiteside. I imagine every GM in the game would be MUCH MUCH MUCH more comfortable giving a guy like drummond tens of millions of dollars- then a guy who got blackballed from the league for being lazy and combatative with teammates.

the truly amazing thing to me about Whiteside is he gets this 2nd chance- and CONTINUES to cheap shot guys, continues to have his coaches and teammates call him out for his behavior. How could you POSSIBLY think its a good idea to give someone like that the keys to your franchise and devote so much of y our payroll to that guy? Its insanity.

This totally explains why Whiteside has teams lining up at his door on July 1st ready to give him that max contract.

Stop with the behavioral issue garbage. Show me his jail record if you want to constantly throw out this behavioral issues garbage

 

[WiggyRuss]

This totally explains why Whiteside has teams lining up at his door on July 1st ready to give him that max contract.

Stop with the behavioral issue garbage. Show me his jail record if you want to constantly throw out this behavioral issues garbage

dude he got blackballed from the league for multiple years, comes back, and then cheap shots multiple players is suspended for it 3 times in 2 years- and is called out by his coaches and teammates multiple times for behavaoral issues.

just on that alone- i dont know how you could ever hand the keys to the franchise to a guy that you need to be under the constant supervision of babysitters like he is a 9 year old child.

 

[bksballer89]

dude he got blackballed from the league for multiple years, comes back, and then cheap shots multiple players is suspended for it 3 times in 2 years- and is called out by his coaches and teammates multiple times for behavaoral issues.

just on that alone- i dont know how you could ever hand the keys to the franchise to a guy that you need to be under the constant supervision of babysitters like he is a 9 year old child.

Show me a link where it mentions anything of him being under constant supervision you fucking liar

 

[bksballer89]

If you can't provide a link stating he is under constant supervision, go fuck yourself. You're clearly making that up.

Constant supervision??? Biggest boldface lie I heard on here. Do you even know what the word constant means?