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[Papalou]

HISL, I am not happy with most of the game play this season, with most of the coaching this season or with most of the players this season.

BUT you and I are roughly the same age and have seen what can be done with our program both good and bad. Unfortunately we have seen more coaching changes in the last 13 years than we ve had in the prior 30.I am tired of getting a new coach and waiting for results and then firing and hiring another and waiting again. I dont have to see us go undefeated every season as long as we have a shot at the NC every so often and compete for a Conference championship every 2 or 3 years. (just for the record I dont consider last years ccg as us competing)

I know everyone thinks a fresh start is all good but look at Purdues fresh start or FAUs or Illinois . We stand a much greater chance of striking out than we do hitting a home run.

Im not content with losing to Minnesota but I do believe it was a fluke and not the norm. The next 5 games will be a tell all and if we get blown out again by anybody including tOSU than fuck it I ll give up on Bo. But until then Im standing my ground. I fear we have already fired a dam good coach in Solich and Id hate to do the same again.

 

[blkflagmafia]

ya but do you remember these guys, Iowa St, Kansas, Colorado, Missouri, Okie lite,Kansas State. this was our regular scheduleforever and prior to the 90s they all sucked year in and year out but now and then we took a loss to one of them.

Yeah but now we're taking it from those style or mediocre teams

it's to the point I don't wanna go to cc game to see osu check our colon out. Nebraska can't afford more tv time of the team getting whipped and exposed .

I respect ya optimistic opinion I just don't know where or how you have it. I still can't believe minny beat us

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

I don't see it as a fluke though. We have always had games where we don't show up. In the beginning we thought it was home games so Pelini puts them ona bus and drives them around town and goes to a hotel.

Nope not the problem.

Get rid of the OC

Nope not the problem.

Get a new DC

Nope not the problem

Now we are changing practice days, playing musical chairs with the black shirts, lying about players being healthy.

The problem has been here since day one. What is the constant since day one?

I didn't chomp at the bit since day one to fire Pelini. I'm not shady. I was pro bo even got the Bofense hat.

And there has been enough change to mask the problem but the problem has always been there. I am sorry but I think that Pelini is a man who knows what he is doing is not working but has no idea why. Last year when he answered the question with "I don't know, I wish I knew" I saw defeat. Since then I have seen frustration and exasperation but I have seen nothing at all to think he is qualified to take this team any further and I fear that frustration is actually doing the opposite.

It has caused him to take desperate actions and that has caused his team to lose confidence in him. Recent incidents have shown that key players are no longer behind him. Once that happens it is over.

And if that is true then the sooner he is removed the sooner the bleeding can be stopped.

 

[Papalou]

Yeah but now we're taking it from those style or mediocre teams

it's to the point I don't wanna go to cc game to see osu check our colon out. Nebraska can't afford more tv time of the team getting whipped and exposed .

I respect ya optimistic opinion I just don't know where or how you have it. I still can't believe minny beat us

there has to be a turning point guys, I just feel like its close. I feel like when our Defense GETS IT.It will be clear to all of us and I think it will happen in Anne Arbor.I honestly think we knock the snot out of Michigan at their house. And I havent been drinkin much lol.

 

[blkflagmafia]

ya but do you remember these guys, Iowa St, Kansas, Colorado, Missouri, Okie lite,Kansas State. this was our regular scheduleforever and prior to the 90s they all sucked year in and year out but now and then we took a loss to one of them.

Yeah but now we're taking it from those style or mediocre teams

it's to the point I don't wanna go to cc game to see osu check our colon out. Nebraska can't afford more tv time of the team getting whipped and exposed .

I respect ya optimistic opinion I just don't know where or how you have it. I still can't believe minny beat us

 

[blkflagmafia]

there has to be a turning point guys, I just feel like its close. I feel like when our Defense GETS IT.It will be clear to all of us and I think it will happen in Anne Arbor.I honestly think we knock the snot out of Michigan at their house. And I havent been drinkin much lol.

when the last time Bo beat the snot out of good team?

 

[Papalou]

when the last time Bo beat the snot out of good team?

when he was the defensive coordinator.

 

[Red_Alert]

The blackshirts were merely a tradition. The tradition was the shirts were earned when you beat out your competition at your position and become the starter.
They were not meant to be a disciplinary tool. As someone said earlier using them as a tool is a distraction to Bo's own failure as a coach.

It's akin to saying "We're cancelling Christmas Eve traditions because Timmy's getting poor grades, lil' Suzy hasn't been keeping her room clean, and momma's been spitting instead of swallowing."

The fact is Bo's struggled to put the pieces together since day one.
His own actions are proof he can't coach a defense into a "Unit" before the season opens.

2008 - Blackshirts issued November 11th. (10 games into the season before they were "playing as a Unit".) Bo's own criteria
2009 - Blackshirts issued October 10th. (5 games into the season before they were "playing as a Unit".) Bo's own criteria
2010 - Blackshirts issued Sept 23rd (3 games into the season before they were "playing as a Unit".) Bo's own criteria
2011 - Blackshirts issued Oct 29th (8 games into the season before they were "playing as a Unit") Bo's own criteria.
2012 - Blackshirts issued Oct 27th (8 games into the season before they were "playing as a Unit")
2013 - Blackshirts issued prior to season. (Pulled 7 games into a season where they've failed to "play as a unit" They were not "playing as a Unit" week one against Wyoming. Bo's own criteria.

If Bo wants to use the blackshirts as a standard of the defense "playing like a Unit", then he can be held to the same standard as a coach. Why aren't his defenses "playing like a Unit" to open the season?

Different players, different years but one common denominator in Bo Pelini.

It's the players, right?

 

[blkflagmafia]

when he was the defensive coordinator.

vague answer

bc he has always be a DC here even when Carl was here

 

[Papalou]

vague answer

bc he has always be a DC here even when Carl was here

Carl had the nuts to tell Bo to fuck off and mean it, but I was talking about when Bo s title was dc here

 

[blkflagmafia]

Carl had the nuts to tell Bo to fuck off and mean it, but I was talking about when Bo s title was dc here

a decade ago ...... that not right were not suppose to be mediocre


and you wonder why we struggle to recruit . everyone has tradition It's the recent ones that matter now

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I honestly don't think Carl had jackshit to do with the Defense being good during the time he was here......

We just had superior talent as the recruiting that led up to those years was decent.

 

[Exorbitant]

Bo Pelini is the problem and unless Nebraska wins 4 out of the next 5 games with the lone loss being competitive, and the CCG being competitive, he has to go! I'm tired of the excuses, and most Nebraska fans are tired of them also.

The new hire has to have "successful" experience as a head coach. There are some candidates out there for the right price.

 

[Exorbitant]

there has to be a turning point guys, I just feel like its close. I feel like when our Defense GETS IT.It will be clear to all of us and I think it will happen in Anne Arbor.I honestly think we knock the snot out of Michigan at their house. And I havent been drinkin much lol.

If that isn't a blowout for Nebraska, I'll be very very very surprised. If something doesn't drastically change before then, a 59-27 type of loss or worse looms for Nebraska, and we can thank Bo for that!

 

[Epic Leprikon]

The defensive assistants and the coordinator suck, I like Bo, but in the end that is on Bo's shoulders, and that is the main thing I hold against him. Stop trying to be a mentor and bring in guys that can actually coach.

 

[Exorbitant]

The defensive assistants and the coordinator suck, I like Bo, but in the end that is on Bo's shoulders, and that is the main thing I hold against him. Stop trying to be a mentor and bring in guys that can actually coach.

Exactly. It's all on Bo's shoulders.

I have a confession to make... I hope Bo can still be successful at Nebraska, but I'm not optimistic he will be. Uh oh, I just said something positive about Bo! Do I get credit for that from a couple of posters at this board who think all of my posts are negative about Bo? lol

 

[bigred472]

good point, that is possible but if I put myself in that position I think working harder and playing smarter helps.

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I'm not big on psycho-babble, but if you had a parent that browbeats his kids at every turn for every reason, said children develop low swelf-esteem. And I think that is what has happened with this team. Especially the defense. Diss Pauchis all you want but at least on the sidelines of game days he's offereing encouragement to his players which is something this team as a whole does not get.

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

Honestly I don't know anything about that. I know when Pelini was DC here his players loved him and would of jumped off a cliff for him.

I believe the same at LSU. As HC things might be different though. I know in that position you can't be so much a friend as a mentor. I always did find it curious when they did pranks, like the phone in practice one and I believe there was another one a few years back where they acted like Pelini and one of the coaches (don't remember which) went at it in the hall, that the players were so ready to believe that Pelini was kicking some guys ass.

To me that just means they have seen him too close to having out of control rages before making this scenario plausible.

Nothing concrete there, just thoughts.

 

[Red_Alert]

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I'm not big on psycho-babble, but if you had a parent that browbeats his kids at every turn for every reason, said children develop low swelf-esteem. And I think that is what has happened with this team. Especially the defense. Diss Pauchis all you want but at least on the sidelines of game days he's offereing encouragement to his players which is something this team as a whole does not get.

Well said, and I think everything under Pelini suggests that including his inexperienced coordinators.

As HC he's supposed to be the leader, the go to if you will.

In his own words he has no answers for what ails them. Inability to evaluate players is currently evident. He himself says he only sees football in "black and white" hence the inability to find a medium and adjust to the moment.
I.E. This is how something is supposed to be done and there is no other way.

He himself has said,they've simplified things back to the basics in practice in the past and I believe that. I also believe that once he sees that the players have grasped those basics, he's right back to adding the same schemes that in his mind are the only way to do things. The "black and white".

After the SDSU game and the whole "simplify things, practice on Sunday instead of Monday, have more fun" stuff, I predicted it was just going to be a temporary improvement until Bo got comfortable with it and began reinstalling the more difficult packages that he is damned determined are the only way and it was just a matter of time before it failed again. It did.

 

[Red_Alert]

That stuff has been a cycle since he's been here. On again off again, inconsistent defense that as soon as you think it's finally fixed, disaster strikes. I assume it's been back to the basics again this week and I think the defense will play well again tomorrow, maybe even the next week. But Bo only knows what he knows (what he learned 15 yrs ago) and he'll start installing the more difficult stuff again until it breaks down.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

In the off-season, Bo should have sent himself, Papuchis, and a couple other assistants to a school that's had defensive success recently and learned what they were doing a la Charlie McBride. Stanford or Alabama would have been good. But no, he pissed away another year damned determined that his "black and white" is the only answer.

Whether or not he's afforded another opportunity by SE) to swallow his pride and learn a new "process" remains to be seen. I have my doubts that he's capable of seeing himself and his methodolgy being wrong. If I was the AD in the post season interview, I wouldn't suggest anything regarding it. I'd just listen to Bo and his answers regarding how he intends to fix things. If those answers didn't include scraping the current scheme, the current methodology, and learning/installing a completely new one, I'd start looking for a replacement, get him onboard, and let Bo go.