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I would be the last person on this board to call anyone an idiot. Butthere needs to be a little perspecive on the issue of winning 9-10 games today compared to the Devaney/Oaborne eras. We play 12 geular season games now, Not the case back then. Back then those 9-10 wins per year pretty much kept us in or near a top 10 finish most years. That many wins many times gave us a Big 8 chammionship or at the very least a big time bowl game.

We haven't seen top 10 finish under Bo (or anything remotely close if memory serves me correctly). No major bowls. No conference championships. BD's winningpercentage .83. TOs winning percentage .84 Bos winning percentage .71. It that 71% of Bos had gotten us just one conference champiionship & one BCS game (win or lose), I'd for one be willing to give Bo a bit longer. But the man truly has little to show with all those wins other than he can't win most of the big games.

I cant disagree with anything you said except that Bo has taken us to 3 CCGs in 6 years. 2009, 2010, 2012.
I agree that he is not performing as well as BD or TO but we arent playing OU and 6 losers every year anymore as well.

I dont like the fact that he (Bo) wont demote or get rid of Papuchis but honestly feel that the players are underperforming in a huge way on defense.Confusion rests on Bos shoulders but mistackles bad reads and general laziness and lack of leadership falls on the individuals. These boys need to step up and take the lead on and off the field.
 

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Taboo lmfao , it is common place to bash Bo Taylor the Offense the Defense the weather the refs and anyone who holds an idea different from pure negativity.


No, my point is it's taboo for ME to criticize Bo here on this board according to a couple other posters, but it's okay for those same posters to criticize Mad Dog themselves. Obviously, most of us here are pretty much in agreement about what needs to be done for our program.
 

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Im with Tom on the blackshirt issue.
 

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I feel like Bo knows the answer and just refuses to wanna change

taking the Blackshirt away isn't gonna do anything. You know the problem fix it or go away point blank

the fans are done with the bs


BINGO!
 

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EVERY coach since Jennings has had the fan base in this Great state call for their firing . Every single one. There was even a petition passed to fire Devaney, T O flew toColorado to look at the Buffs job. All of these traditions we gloat about would be nothing without those two.

But I am an idiot for wanting to give a 9 and 10 win coach a chance to prove himself. Personally Im sick of arguing my point. Rave on gentlemen Rave on. But if we get an honest to God losing coach to replace what we have , sit back and stfu. Maybe think to yourselves, wow maybe It could have been ok .


I still didn't want Mad Dog gone until his last ?performance?. After Nebraska wins just two games of the last five at the most, will you still want Bo to continue coaching here?
 

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I still didn't want Mad Dog gone until his last ?performance?. After Nebraska wins just two games of the last five at the most, will you still want Bo to continue coaching here?

Id like to see the remaining games this season before I write the season off as lost. I dont like watching Nebraska struggle any more than you but I cant blame Bo for every dam thing that goes wrong. There was a day when people took responsibility for there mistakes and I dont see much of that from the players.

That to me is the difference between us and the high caliber teams. No one says "my bad". Eichorst will make the right decision without me bitching. So I will continue to be blindly optomistic about our team Go Big Red
 

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Id like to see the remaining games this season before I write the season off as lost. I dont like watching Nebraska struggle any more than you but I cant blame Bo for every dam thing that goes wrong. There was a day when people took responsibility for there mistakes and I dont see much of that from the players.

That to me is the difference between us and the high caliber teams. No one says "my bad". Eichorst will make the right decision without me bitching. So I will continue to be blindly optomistic about our team Go Big Red


what more do you need to see??
 

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what more do you need to see??

you cant tell me that youre going to say fuck it and not see how this turns out, we ve only lost two dam games. Granted we could have won the first and should have won the second, but seriously this is OUR team.I refuse to give up on them. If they only win one more I ll still be screamin at my tv watching the dam humanitarian bowl if thats all we get.
 

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you cant tell me that youre going to say fuck it and not see how this turns out, we ve only lost two dam games. Granted we could have won the first and should have won the second, but seriously this is OUR team.I refuse to give up on them. If they only win one more I ll still be screamin at my tv watching the dam humanitarian bowl if thats all we get.

I'll still watch and be fan no matter what

but answer me this who have we beat this year that is a good team or impressive victory....
wyo? sdsu? usm?

2 losses in a cake schedule that most writers and media said we could be undefeated or one loss.

I rang the alarm after the wyo gsme bc I saw nothing had change from last year. nothing . This program isn't moving forward at all. The Kool aid is blinding you sir
 

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and ps the team has quit

offense hasn't been nothing like what we heard in the off season
a coach rather play rag doll qb who is hurt and not 2 healthy back up as that look good enough to win.

and a defense that is a pure joke .

Also had the nation has the play book on how to rip Nebraska a fan could make 40 play play book and rip us as long as it has jet sweep n pre snap motion or a fast qb.
 

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we dont have a good win, I know you are a good fan, and the team hasnt started to play yet .
 

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Every win is a good win. I'd rather have any win over a loss.
 

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Id like to see the remaining games this season before I write the season off as lost. I dont like watching Nebraska struggle any more than you but I cant blame Bo for every dam thing that goes wrong. There was a day when people took responsibility for there mistakes and I dont see much of that from the players.

That to me is the difference between us and the high caliber teams. No one says "my bad". Eichorst will make the right decision without me bitching. So I will continue to be blindly optomistic about our team Go Big Red
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And here I'm not really defending the players, but maybe just maybe they make so many mistakes because they are trying too hard and the game has ceased to have any enjoyment for them....in otherwards they are so afraid of making mistakes they make more for fear of the repercussions. Any young defense WILL make mistakes but is Bo being patient with his players in regards to that?
 

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we dont have a good win, I know you are a good fan, and the team hasnt started to play yet .

the team has ......

it's not basketball where you can take games off. team hasnt started to play yet lol haha let me guess minny was the eye opener.

you only get 12 regular season game outside of the Sec you only get 1 loss. don't want till mid season to start playing good football .
 

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And here I'm not really defending the players, but maybe just maybe they make so many mistakes because they are trying too hard and the game has ceased to have any enjoyment for them....in otherwards they are so afraid of making mistakes they make more for fear of the repercussions. Any young defense WILL make mistakes but is Bo being patient with his players in regards to that?

good point, that is possible but if I put myself in that position I think working harder and playing smarter helps.
 

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Every win is a good win. I'd rather have any win over a loss.

:L

so we've fallen to the status of being happy that it wasn't a loss

I saw a new mtv reality series call the Nebraska and the mediocre life.

I mean wyo usm purdue Illinois sdsu? If your a legit team losing shouldn't even cross your mind with those teams....

beaten housewife syndrome. ... at least he didn't choke me.:doh:
 

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so we've fallen to the status of being happy that it wasn't a loss

I saw a new mtv reality series call the Nebraska and the mediocre life.

I mean wyo usm purdue Illinois sdsu? If your a legit team losing shouldn't even cross your mind with those teams....

beaten housewife syndrome. ... at least he didn't choke me.:doh:

ya but do you remember these guys, Iowa St, Kansas, Colorado, Missouri, Okie lite,Kansas State. this was our regular scheduleforever and prior to the 90s they all sucked year in and year out but now and then we took a loss to one of them.
 

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Lou I am not calling you an idiot but you have to admit you are saying you are not happy with the status quo but don't want to go through the hassles of installing a new regime.

That is what I mean by the 'it's a pile of shit but at least it's warm' mentality. That doesn't make you an idiot. I don't understand the mind set, no, but I don't think you are an idiot.

I am not giving up on "my team" either. Yes I feel like it is "My team" too. That is why I feel so strongly.

Perhaps it is from being in management for several years but I am of the opinion that if there is a problem you define the problem, identify a solution and and take actions to arrive at that solution. You then assign responsibility to qualified individuals to perform those necessary actions. If they do not or can not then you must find someone who will.

Now of course there is a learning curve but with that curve there has to be progress. In this situation I believe the problem has been identified, actions needed and I am sure Osborne and now Eichorst has addressed these with him.

Yeah he's got the rest the season to rectify this and we can all blow sunshine up each other's butts in hopes that all will change, but honestly looking at past performance you can see there is no curve, there is no progress. We (the Huskers) are flat lined thus my signature.

Nothing has changed, nothing is different so for me to expect the results these next few games and this season to be any different is in my opinion insane.

Now I am willing to be surprised, I would love to be wrong, but what I expect is more embarrassments and honestly I feel sorry for these kids. They are the ones that are being harmed by all this.

You say they need to take responsibility, yet whose fault was it that Martinez played before he was healthy?

Bo's words "I looked him straight in the eyes and he said he was healthy."(paraphrased because I don't remember the exact words but that was the content of his words)
Now I've given my opinion on this in another post already but that was clearly throwing Martinez under the bus to cover for the incompetence of him and his staff. You don't ask a college kid with 6 more games to play in his life if he is ready. Yet our multi-million dollar coach either doesn't know that or thinks we are stupid enough to accept that as a good reason not to hold him accountable for Martinez out there limping on the field when we were told he wouldn't be back unless he was 100%.

Yeah our players need to take responsibility but I sure would think that if our coach who is making millions of dollars did it first it might say something.
With that said we clearly disagree but I do respect you and your loyalty. Don't understand it, but I respect you for it. With that said just as you feel my position does nothing to help I feel like yours does not either. When it comes down to it we are both fans. Fans with different opinions yes but bottom line all either of us can do is blow off steam on a sports board.
 
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