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Not much respect for Jordan. To me he was a product of advertising and mega endorsement before the game itself. I had conversations with Joey Crawford when Jordan broke in and the mandate was let this guy have the calls, he's going to transform the game and save a dying sport. They built a whole new NBA around him and his talent was no better than Magic or Bird at that time. Most people don't know the half of it.

I'll give ya the change without argument knowing it was a cosmetic change and not a rule change. I really don't have anything bad about Shaq or his play and am not trying to belittle any achievements or asterisk any awards. Lets just say we have reached an understanding and loved watching the game.
This is some of the stupidest shit ever put on this board. Rare air.
 

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This is some of the stupidest shit ever put on this board. Rare air.

It's always fun in the playoffs when the casuals show up and act like they know what they're talking about.
 

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So they just chose to give some random guy endorsements and advertising and this random dude just became the man we know today as Micheal Jordan? The absolute luck of this random person being picked and him suddenly being able to dunk from the free throw line, etc etc is astounding.
Pretty much. I've also seen Jerry Stackhouse slam it from the line too but the difference is Jordan got all the ink.
Advertising and marketing ( with some liberal traveling calls ) helped Jordan's career.
He wasn't all that at UNC ( still can't say he was on of the 5 the best there but can say most famous ) and none of us there thought he had the talent of Magic or Bird. History will show he had talent but the ink and the stories propelled his fame more than what the other 2 got and maybe not Bird as much but Magic talent rivaled Jordans.
 

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This is some of the stupidest shit ever put on this board. Rare air.
I am just glad someone came along with a take that would be more hated than mine on Kareem.
 

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Pretty much. I've also seen Jerry Stackhouse slam it from the line too but the difference is Jordan got all the ink.
Advertising and marketing ( with some liberal traveling calls ) helped Jordan's career.
He wasn't all that at UNC ( still can't say he was on of the 5 the best there but can say most famous ) and none of us there thought he had the talent of Magic or Bird. History will show he had talent but the ink and the stories propelled his fame more than what the other 2 got and maybe not Bird as much but Magic talent rivaled Jordans.
I've seen some weird hills in my time, but this one is special man.
 

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I am just glad someone came along with a take that would be more hated than mine on Kareem.
If you said Kareem was anything other than a top 3 all time player you were full of shit too
 

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I've seen some weird hills in my time, but this one is special man.
Hey, if you care to laugh go ahead but I'm not going to say something I don't feel strongly about, and with good reason. I don't talk much NBA, don't find it as interesting as before. You don't know the same people I know ( and you know some I don't ) so why be taken back? it's not as if nobody is allowed to know them.
Things are not what they seem to be, there's always an underlying story of fascination.
I play golf with a guy who's dead, well at least people think he is because they read the highly publicized obituary, but I know differently.
I don't say these things to impress anyone, and it won't matter to you anyway but because it seems unlikely to the naked eye or what the media or history has fed us there is no reason to think otherwise, right? I' didn't lead an average life and so the people I met and things I did most won't or can't accept because they never had the chance, not my fault.
I don't get into critical personal information but I do share some things and experiences and this is one of them.
 

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If you said Kareem was anything other than a top 3 all time player you were full of shit too
Just top 3? So if I said Magic was third that is an agregious statement to you?
 

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Just top 3? So if I said Magic was third that is an agregious statement to you?
Na not terrible, just saying any goat conversation has to at least have Kareem in it. Magic doesn’t get in that conversation.
 

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Hey, if you care to laugh go ahead but I'm not going to say something I don't feel strongly about, and with good reason. I don't talk much NBA, don't find it as interesting as before. You don't know the same people I know ( and you know some I don't ) so why be taken back? it's not as if nobody is allowed to know them.
Things are not what they seem to be, there's always an underlying story of fascination.
I play golf with a guy who's dead, well at least people think he is because they read the highly publicized obituary, but I know differently.
I don't say these things to impress anyone, and it won't matter to you anyway but because it seems unlikely to the naked eye or what the media or history has fed us there is no reason to think otherwise, right? I' didn't lead an average life and so the people I met and things I did most won't or can't accept because they never had the chance, not my fault.
I don't get into critical personal information but I do share some things and experiences and this is one of them.
Drugs are bad, m'kay?
 

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Drugs are bad, m'kay?
Yep, and when you experience a dull and mundane life you're more apt to find consolation in them. I never took drugs but volunteered to chaperone ARD programs for addicts.
 

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Pretty much. I've also seen Jerry Stackhouse slam it from the line too but the difference is Jordan got all the ink.
Advertising and marketing ( with some liberal traveling calls ) helped Jordan's career.
He wasn't all that at UNC ( still can't say he was on of the 5 the best there but can say most famous ) and none of us there thought he had the talent of Magic or Bird. History will show he had talent but the ink and the stories propelled his fame more than what the other 2 got and maybe not Bird as much but Magic talent rivaled Jordans.

Cmon man.

You are comparing Jerry Stackhouse to Jordan.

Magic and MJ were 2 vastly different players in the way they controlled games.

But you seem to be equating “talent” with basketball skill while underplaying the athletic component.

MJ was just so much more explosive than Magic. And he was able to leverage that to also be an all time great defender.

That is ultimately the greatest separator.

The myth of Jordan is absolutely greater than the reality given that there are people out there who legit think he is a deity.

But you are taking this way too far.

Who he was in college is irrelevant. He was an unfinished product. And as the saying goes, Dean Smith was the only man who could contain MJ. And there is some truth to that.
 

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Cmon man.

You are comparing Jerry Stackhouse to Jordan.

Magic and MJ were 2 vastly different players in the way they controlled games.

But you seem to be equating “talent” with basketball skill while underplaying the athletic component.

MJ was just so much more explosive than Magic. And he was able to leverage that to also be an all time great defender.

That is ultimately the greatest separator.

The myth of Jordan is absolutely greater than the reality given that there are people out there who legit think he is a deity.

But you are taking this way too far.

Who he was in college is irrelevant. He was an unfinished product. And as the saying goes, Dean Smith was the only man who could contain MJ. And there is some truth to that.
Never compared the 2 just said if thinking a dunk from the free throw line was supposed to mean something, Stackhouse did the same thing, no big deal
I do agree the game was different for Magic and MJ but what I posted was the events prior to the anointment.
I bought up his college presence because it did have something to do with who and what he was groomed for.I heard the story of the floundering NBA and the Renaissance provided by Magic and Bird . The major story back then was Dean Smith winning a National Championship and Jordan fit the supporting role ( although it was only a brief moment and was not the major factor of the win ) .
Jordan's fame was born from that story that's why it was noted.
What I said is Jordan was a product of investment and in a time where the NBA needed a shot in arm. No other player received more attention and progressive gerrymandering, that has to be a factor in his claim to fame
 
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