HUNH or Old School Football?

[MarkOU]

I don't have a team. College football is a joke and will be until they have a legitimate playoff.

Stop trolling the College Football boards if its a joke!

Hockey is a joke.

 

[pennstatenut]

With a great secondary it takes a lot of pressure of your DL so that they can attack and not have make so many reads. This is why Bama, FSU, UF, LSU are all looking at having a loaded secondary. To give relief in run support and against the pass. A good CB on a TE is a win for the D compared to a big LB in coverage.

I heard Jimbo Fisher in an interview answer a question on why he looks for so many secondary guys. His response was that when you coach your defense back to front(secondary to DL) there are more possibilities to make big plays against a spread offense. You can dictate what the offense can do more when the coverage is so tight.

So the secondary is supposed to help against the run AND the pass? Aren't the linebackers and defensive lines supposed to do the same, Master of the Obvious?

 

[BamaTee1]

What changed was defense being specialized for down and distance, ie the nickel, the dime, etc. Get rid of that and go back to playing straight defense. What you're basically asking for is for offenses to be hampered by situation substitutions on defense. Screw it, let the offenses run wild with the hurry up and make coaches learn to coach defense without having to resort to special packages.

Times have changed. Would you like to tell me how the base defense is suppose to match up with today's offenses? They have been specialized for some time now. The problem is now (very recent) that has been taken from the defense. You will have an answer for every question I ask but it will be trivial and not realistic.

Not sure old school vs HUNH is the correct wording. Using your definition who runs old school anymore? Alabama doesn't. They throw and run almost 50-50 to the exact number. They throw it deep all the time. They just use play action to set it up. Where so many of these HUNH teams use a short passing attack as their running game and then throw the run at you while others use run to set up pass. I promise you Alabama is not 3 yards and cloud of dust. The only difference is they don't run a true definition of spread. I like a more wide open game but I don't like teams that run to the line and sit there for 25 seconds before snapping it. Watching a truly great offense against a great defense will usually result in a 28-24 type game but the offense earns what it gets. Even a 35-31 game can be that type. Just as long as offense executes and earns it. The common denominator is it has to execute. It's been said many times a perfect pass can not be defensed! However, so many times you wonder if anyone is playing DB!

 

[Wild Turkey]

I really don't understand why Saban is scared shitless of the HUNH? This isn't the 1st time new offenses have been introduced and shredded defenses; then in 3-4 years, defenses adapted and overcame. The Wishbone was shredding defenses when DKR and Emory Bellard introduced it to CFB; defenses adapted. Same thing about the Run N Shoot. Saban needs to stop pissing sitting down and him and Smart just need to come up with a scheme to stop Aggy and AU. Hell, follow LSU's blueprint; they shut down Aggy and AU pretty well.

You are 100% correct about the wishbone and you know what a great coach like Bear Bryant did? He implemented the wishbone, coached his players up and made the decision he would beat other teams the old fashion way by being better.

Saban could learn a thing or two from the Bear maybe he should spend an afternoon at the Bryant Museum it's just down the street.

 

[Bamabino]

Fuck a HUNH offense. When one wins a national championship they might have point. Meanwhile the results on the field tell the story. Non-HUNH teams have all the championships.

year, team, national rank in plays per game, actual plays per game, games vs FCS teams excluded:

2013-FSU----88th,70.7
2012-Bama-114th,66.3
2011-Bama--97th,67.5
2010-Aub.---54th,69.9
2009-Bama--63rd,68.9
2008-Fla.----110th,63.8
2007-LSU----28th, 77.4
2006-Fla.----75th,64.6
2005-Tex.---39th,73.5
2004-USC---50th,72.8
2003-LSU---61st,72.2


Average rank-70.8, avg plays per game-69.8. Even 2013 Oregon(39th,76.6) and Auburn(62nd,73.8) aren't as fast as they think they are. Trend- In 2010 only 3 teams averaged 80 or more plays per game. In 2013 the number rose to 20.



source:

http://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/plays-per-game

 

[WhiteMamba]

Fuck a HUNH offense. When one wins a national championship they might have point. Meanwhile the results on the field tell the story. Non-HUNH teams have all the championships.

year, team, national rank in plays per game, actual plays per game, games vs FCS teams excluded:

2013-FSU----88th,70.7
2012-Bama-114th,66.3
2011-Bama--97th,67.5
2010-Aub.---54th,69.9
2009-Bama--63rd,68.9
2008-Fla.----110th,63.8
2007-LSU----28th, 77.4
2006-Fla.----75th,64.6
2005-Tex.---39th,73.5
2004-USC---50th,72.8
2003-LSU---61st,72.2


Average rank-70.8, avg plays per game-69.8. Even 2013 Oregon(39th,76.6) and Auburn(62nd,73.8) aren't as fast as they think they are. Trend- In 2010 only 3 teams averaged 80 or more plays per game. In 2013 the number rose to 20.



source:

College Football Stats - College FB Team Plays per Game on TeamRankings.com

Exactly. Now if we get your whining bitch of a HC to agree with you and I, we are on to something.

 

[trojanfan12]

Fuck a HUNH offense. When one wins a national championship they might have point. Meanwhile the results on the field tell the story. Non-HUNH teams have all the championships.

year, team, national rank in plays per game, actual plays per game, games vs FCS teams excluded:

2013-FSU----88th,70.7
2012-Bama-114th,66.3
2011-Bama--97th,67.5
2010-Aub.---54th,69.9
2009-Bama--63rd,68.9
2008-Fla.----110th,63.8
2007-LSU----28th, 77.4
2006-Fla.----75th,64.6
2005-Tex.---39th,73.5
2004-USC---50th,72.8
2003-LSU---61st,72.2


Average rank-70.8, avg plays per game-69.8. Even 2013 Oregon(39th,76.6) and Auburn(62nd,73.8) aren't as fast as they think they are. Trend- In 2010 only 3 teams averaged 80 or more plays per game. In 2013 the number rose to 20.



source:

College Football Stats - College FB Team Plays per Game on TeamRankings.com

Then why are so many 'Bama fans in favor of the rule. If the way to win an NC is to play a more traditional style, I would think you'd want more teams playing hunh.

 

[Bamabino]

Exactly. Now if we get your whining bitch of a HC to agree with you and I, we are on to something.

We SHO' are!

 

[Wild Turkey]

I don't think he is 100% comprehending.

 

[Papa]

Couldn't decide which thread to drop this gem into, so I flipped a coin (but didn't look at the result until after 10 seconds had elapsed).


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[Papa]

Dadgummit, try this link instead

 

[963BUSC]

Then why are so many 'Bama fans in favor of the rule. If the way to win an NC is to play a more traditional style, I would think you'd want more teams playing hunh.

Even stranger is why would Bama want to slow down the game. With superior athletes more plays should equal more chances for your big play makers to make a play which should lead to more wins. Very few schools can compete with Bama for athletes.

 

[BamaTee1]

Even stranger is why would Bama want to slow down the game. With superior athletes more plays should equal more chances for your big play makers to make a play which should lead to more wins. Very few schools can compete with Bama for athletes.

I did not know Alabama wanted to slow down the game? Seems like that's the conclusion many posters have decided to ass/u/me on! True?

 

[963BUSC]

I did not know Alabama wanted to slow down the game? Seems like that's the conclusion many posters have decided to ass/u/me on! True?

Yes, it was an assumption based on adding a rule to have a minimum amount of time between plays, crazy assumption.