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[kbso83432]

I was projecting down the road KB when making this statement. Dean talked about TH possibly lighting it up against the Vikings or Eagles and adding in Young's return, it is possible the vibe heading into Eagles game #2 with TH playing well and Young returning at a time the defense is humming, it could be a game to remember. Just thought I would explain the post as it does seem random.

Nah, I got it. If we get 2020 Chase while we are still in the hunt, that's huge.

 

[Sportster 72]

Wentz is standoffish with teammates and not a leader. This has been well documented.

Multiple beat writers have said this from Indy and Philly.

I do not source beat writers. They are journalists, not athletes.

 

[skinsdad62]

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But if he put up good numbers, why was there a collapse? Perhaps the numbers are inflated the Reich knew that. You cannot blame the defense...it was top 10.

Let us be honest, Wentz will NOT have 2 things here that will deflate his numbers:

1. Elite play-caller in Reich.
2. Best ground game in the NFL.

Colts fans/apologists were already nervous and questioning Wentz after 8 weeks. I find it odd that you dismiss the opinions and proof that Colts fans/pundits provided. I believe your "loyalty" to the coaches and Wentz prevents you from thinking objectively. Please see McAfee's quote.

You also fail to acknowledge that Indy had the #10 overall defense and we had the #25 ranked defense. You purposely neglect that because it does not fit your agenda. We were ranked dead last in passing TDs and 29th in passing yards. Rivera's fix was to keep our secondary coach, bring back McCain and then draft a 4th rounder to fix it???

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The collapse was b/c he stunk the last 2 games. The guy only had 7ints for the whole year in 17 games. That doesn't mean anything to you? You put him on our team last year and we make the playoffs not the Eagles. Matter of fact we would have swept the Eagles last year if we had Wentz

this you dean ?

 

[deanpet21]

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The collapse was b/c he stunk the last 2 games. The guy only had 7ints for the whole year in 17 games. That doesn't mean anything to you? You put him on our team last year and we make the playoffs not the Eagles. Matter of fact we would have swept the Eagles last year if we had Wentz

this you dean ?

yes. that message was referring to last year.

 

[skinsdad62]

yes. that message was referring to last year.

Sounds like messiah talk , last yr didn’t the eagles make the playoffs ?

and didn’t wince get beat down this year ?

 

[deanpet21]

Sounds like messiah talk , last yr didn’t the eagles make the playoffs ?

and didn’t wince get beat down this year ?

lol. that is just hilarious. you are giving up on him from just 6 games.

 

[duke1861]

lol. that is just hilarious. you are giving up on him from just 6 games.

Most people have given up on him after 6 games dean. Are we all stupid?

 

[duke1861]

Carson Wentz should never take another snap for the Commanders

For some of us, it was apparent quite early on - at least since the loss to the Cowboys - that we didn’t need to see any more of Carson Wentz to know that he wasn’t the answer in DC. It took two...

www.hogshaven.com

So here is a piece from hogshaven that contradicts what was earlier posted. Seems like more and more fans have seen enough of Wentz.

 

[skinsdad62]

lol. that is just hilarious. you are giving up on him from just 6 games.

Didn’t say that , I have seen the totality of his career to see he is mid level

 

[duke1861]

lol. that is just hilarious. you are giving up on him from just 6 games.

If you simply wanted a QB better than TH, would you be defending garappalo and Mayfield as well?

 

[deanpet21]

Most people have given up on him after 6 games dean. Are we all stupid?

no it just proves you and others are not willing to give the guy a fair chance.

 

[deanpet21]

Carson Wentz should never take another snap for the Commanders

For some of us, it was apparent quite early on - at least since the loss to the Cowboys - that we didn’t need to see any more of Carson Wentz to know that he wasn’t the answer in DC. It took two...

www.hogshaven.com

So here is a piece from hogshaven that contradicts what was earlier posted. Seems like more and more fans have seen enough of Wentz.

i saw that post. Those are from TH lovers. That is from people wanted to go with TH all year this year. Plus its coming off a win. i posted other people from their board who say different. We all have our own opinion

 

[deanpet21]

Didn’t say that , I have seen the totality of his career to see he is mid level

so are you giving up on him or not? straight answer for once.

 

[deanpet21]

If you simply wanted a QB better than TH, would you be defending garappalo and Mayfield as well?

it depends how they played with us. thats whats its all about.

 

[duke1861]

it depends how they played with us. thats whats its all about.

So TH win the game and energized the offense. What are your thoughts?

Do you still believe hurts and Wentz are on the same QB level as you did in the off-season?

Would you agree that Wentz is the worst starting QB in the division?

If we need to find better QB play, who is your target in 2023 or do you want Wentz back?

 

[duke1861]

no it just proves you and others are not willing to give the guy a fair chance.

What is a fair chance exactly? Did Philly give him a fair a chance? Did Indy give him a fair chance?

Why do you feel there is a conspiracy against Wentz? I saw plenty in his career up to this year and in the 6 games he started. The reports are pretty accurate: no pocket presence, too many turnovers, poor decision making.

Again, if wentz was an above average QB, he would not be on his 3rd team in 3 years. It will be 4 teams in 4 years next year hopefully.

 

[deanpet21]

What is a fair chance exactly? Did Philly give him a fair a chance? Did Indy give him a fair chance?

Why do you feel there is a conspiracy against Wentz? I saw plenty in his career up to this year and in the 6 games he started. The reports are pretty accurate: no pocket presence, too many turnovers, poor decision making.

Again, if wentz was an above average QB, he would not be on his 3rd team in 3 years. It will be 4 teams in 4 years next year hopefully.

I bet Indy would like to have hm back now.

 

[deanpet21]

So TH win the game and energized the offense. What are your thoughts?

Do you still believe hurts and Wentz are on the same QB level as you did in the off-season?

Would you agree that Wentz is the worst starting QB in the division?

If we need to find better QB play, who is your target in 2023 or do you want Wentz back?

TH didnt win the game. Running game and defense won that game. TH was trying to lose the game in the first half.

Hurts is having a great year Totally different type of QB. He fits their offense.

I think Wentz is better than Jones.

It depends how the season finishes. Im not looking at 2023 right now. Alot of football left.

 

[duke1861]

TH didnt win the game. Running game and defense won that game. TH was trying to lose the game in the first half.

Hurts is having a great year Totally different type of QB. He fits their offense.

I think Wentz is better than Jones.

It depends how the season finishes. Im not looking at 2023 right now. Alot of football left.

But hurts is a better QB like I said. You are wrong yet again. You have a talent at being wrong.

TH sealed the game in the final drive. Wentz loses games on the final drive. TH is about .500 as a wsh starter while Wentz is 2-4 and should be 1-5.

Jones is winning this year and guiding the offense. Wentz is guiding the team to losses and sacks..lol.

If you want Wentz back in 2023, I am wasting my time in this discussion. He should be shown the door.

 

[duke1861]

I bet Indy would like to have hm back now.

Wrong again. Reich and Ballard both said it was a mistake. So I guess you know more than they do about the colts...geez.

You literally hate anyone who doesn't like Wentz. I literally am at a loss why you worship this guy.