Harvin on PUP...

[Jikkle]

I would say the best course of action is to opt for the surgery and be healthy and ready for the playoffs.

A) His sole defining attribute is his explosiveness and if his explosiveness is diminished by the hip it turns him from being an explosive playmaker to just another guy.

B) Based on his position he's going to get in that area a lot. Yes Chancellor played with the same injury but he doesn't have to worry about getting tackled and hit on the hip every time he touches the ball. With the WR and RB position there is a much higher chance of making that injury worse just due to the nature of the position. Let's not forget he plays in the NFC West where he's going to see some of the most physical defenses in the league 6 times this season.

I just think you have to consider long term health and the fact that you don't want him to play through it and hurt it worse in week 5 and miss the entire rest of the season. The Seahawks are fully capable of making the playoffs without Harvin and if I was the Seahawks I would much rather a healthy Harvin late in the season and in the playoffs.

 

[RegentDenali]

Breaking on NFL network and the news wires:

Harvin says he will require the surgery and they are projecting minimum 3-4 month recovery time. Most likely will not play for this season.


Damnit.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Link to update here:

Percy Harvin of Seattle Seahawks to undergo hip surgery - ESPN

Per what someone said above, 3-4 months.

 

[RegentDenali]

Per league sources. Surgery will happen on Thursday, likely in NYC.

Now comes the decision if we keep him on the PUP list or declare him done for season. Don't think we'll get a final on that till near the end of pre-season when final roster moves begin.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Per league sources. Surgery will happen on Thursday, likely in NYC.

Now comes the decision if we keep him on the PUP list or declare him done for season. Don't think we'll get a final on that till near the end of pre-season when final roster moves begin.

IMO: it's a hip tear, not an ACL or something that is going to significantly impact his speed or agility. Getting him back come the final few games of the season and playoffs + potential Super Bowl (Calm down rivals, just saying potentially) would be HUGE.

I'd rather not have him for 12 games and have him for the final 4-8 then fill than position with some random scrub.

 

[RegentDenali]

It's still a gamble because with him on PUP, it does slightly limit our roster move ability, especially if another has to go on PUP as well. Just makes it tighter, but they'll probably make the final call after the procedure and what the doctors report.

 

[Jikkle]

You guys can just put him on the IR as your designated to return guy which is likely what they'll do.

 

[HustleWilson]

All I know is Harvin better work his azz off to get back in time for the end of the season and the playoffs or this city should turn on

 

[JDM]

He shouldn't be eligible for PUP if he hurt his hip at camp.

 

[jakedog56]

Well, we still have a deep group of WRs, just not nearly as dynamic and no true "#1".

If Rice can stay healthy I would hope that he would step it up a notch and contribute on a larger scale. Tate on the other side and Baldwin in the slot is still a functional group for Wilson to target.

The loss that actually worries me more is McCoy. If Miller can step it up like he did at the end of last year (this might be predicated on the OL play and if Miller is allowed to go out in patterns or if he is stuck in blocking mode) then it might be ok, but we really don't have anyone else with experience to step in at this point.

 

[bigkurty]

People need to quit dogging Harvin about being injury prone. Prior to last season when he missed 7 games, he had played in 45 of 48 games in his first three seasons, that's 94%.

The timing of the hip issue is very odd, however other than last year, he's had a good track record for being on the field. Need to give him a bit more credit.

 

[dredinis21]

People need to quit dogging Harvin about being injury prone. Prior to last season when he missed 7 games, he had played in 45 of 48 games in his first three seasons, that's 94%.

The timing of the hip issue is very odd, however other than last year, he's had a good track record for being on the field. Need to give him a bit more credit.

Considering the dollar commitment and life of the contract he just signed, I think it is very reasonable for SEA fans to wonder about his durability especially post hip surgery. Can he recover? If he does, will he still be the same explosive player he was pre-injury?

 

[dude82]

The first thing I thought when I first heard that Harvin hurt his hip and might need surgery was that it would be a big loss because of what he could add to the offense, but that it wouldn't be a crippling loss because of what this offense was already capable of without him. He's a great player and he's going to do great things in this offense, so I don't want to minimize his importance to the team too much, but on a list of players the Seahawks can't afford to lose if they want to be the team everyone expects them to be, he's not in the top 5. He might not even be in the top 5 on the offensive side of the ball depending on how much importance you place on offensive linemen.

He was going to be an important part of the offense and he will be when he gets back, but he wasn't the offense in the same way that Megatron is the offense in Detroit or Drew Brees is the offense in New Orleans or Adrian Peterson is the offense in Minnesota. If any of those players went down for up to three months of the regular season, those offenses would be a shell of what they are with those players healthy and playing, and those teams would find it difficult to recover from the loss of those players.

Because of the way the offense was rolling last year before Harvin and because of the timing of the injury, it shouldn't cause Bevell to have to go back and totally re-work the scheme he planned to implement this year. I don't believe that the entire offensive philosophy was being re-tooled to make Harvin the focal point, so leaving his stuff out should cause minimal disruption in the implementation of the scheme. If it was to be a Harvin-heavy offense, like Minnesota's offense is Peterson-heavy, his injury would have been a much bigger problem.

Again... none of this is to diminish his importance to the offense and to the team, but I would hope that nobody views this injury as something the Seahawks won't be able to recover from. His acquisition and subsequent signing was a luxury that the Seahawks felt that they could afford and I don't think they would have done it if they thought that losing him, even if it's for the season, would torpedo their future on or off the field. Obviously it's not ideal, but I'm sure it is something they discussed beforehand.

 

[bigkurty]

I would trade surgery now to have him healthy for the next several years if that is the last resort.

My big concern is the return game. We let Leon go after the Harvin signing, and it sounds like Christine Michael and Tate are trying out for return duties. If Tate were to be a punt returner like he said he would on KJR today, what happens if he takes a bad hit and now we're down a return man and a WR? And, with Turbin hurt, we may need Michael to fill backup RB void.

Wonder if there are any return guys on the market or any will hit waivers soon.

 

[dude82]

Obviously it sucks to lose him in the short-term, but we have him for the long-term, so as long as there are no complications from this surgery, I don't see any reason why this trade and subsequent signing can't still be an overwhelming success in the long run. I don't believe that the Seahawks went into this blindly, haphazardly, desperately or without great forethought. They did their homework, because that's what great teams do when they consider whether to add a certain player or not. We're all disappointed that this happened, but I guarantee that both the team and Harvin are just as disappointed as we are, if not more. Ultimately, though, the team will be fine and Harvin will be fine. We'll just have to wait a little longer for his Seahawks debut than we thought we'd have to.

 

[RegentDenali]

Update from PC today during the practice session:

The surgery “went very well.” But he also said there is “a long rehab process coming up.” That will begin in New York, where Harvin will stay for a few weeks, Carroll said.

“Then we will get him back here in due time,” Carroll said. “But we don’t have any dates or timelines or any of that kind of stuff. But we are going to be very optimistic and hope he gets back as soon as possible and be glad that we can get him fixed up and he’ll be ready to go eventually.”

Asked if that meant Harvin could return this season, Carroll said: “Hope so yeah, that’s what we are hoping. … with all the information we got, we are more hopeful. We are hopeful that he will have a chance to get back.”

 

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