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Gronk becomes 1st TE in NFL history with 3 seasons of 1,000 yards & 10 TD's

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Considering what the Pats looked like without him, he should get some MVP talk. Not that it will happen, as everyone seemed to decide it would be Cam's year around mid-October, but he's obviously the best at his position in the league, one Hell of a mismatch for anyone, and very much a game changer. I'd take him over most "elite" WRs and RBs any day.
 

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why are we saying Pro Bowls make you better than one other player? Pro Bowls? Come on people we can do so much better than that!
Not to mention how many get in because others refuse to go or are injured and can't attend.
 

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Not to mention how many get in because others refuse to go or are injured and can't attend.

Exactly. Hell isn't Brady top 5 in Pro Bowl selections yet hasn't gone and therefore someone else takes his place?
 

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I hate the Patriots as much as anybody, but Gronk is just as good a blocker as any TE around. That's not arguable.
how can someone not get this?
 

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Tony G had better hands but Gronk is probably better in every other aspect.

Big point of comparison here is that Trent Green is no Tom Brady so I think that Tony G looks a little worse because of that.
 

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its true

best TE to ever play IMO. gonzalez is the water mark, but gronks shattering his pace.

may the boy stay healthy.

Gronk is playing in a more passer friendly era than Gonzales did in his first 6 years. That being said I rarely say "The best ever" for any position because I haven't seen the old time players. I just try to determine if they're in the conversation and Gronk is without a doubt one of, if not the 2 best I've ever seen.
 

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Gronk is playing in a more passer friendly era than Gonzales did in his first 6 years. That being said I rarely say "The best ever" for any position because I haven't seen the old time players. I just try to determine if they're in the conversation and Gronk is without a doubt one of, if not the 2 best I've ever seen.
ive seen both play

you have too
 

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ive seen both play

you have too

I'm going back further than that when I say there's guys I didn't see.. And in Gonzales early days it isn't like today where we could see every out of market game and there's 15 ports channels with the highlights etc.
 

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ive seen both play

you have too
I've seen one play 11 years more than the other, too. Lets be real about Gronk - he is going to break down in the next 4 years.
 

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I've seen one play 11 years more than the other, too. Lets be real about Gronk - he is going to break down in the next 4 years.
maybe. mark bavaro did.
 

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maybe. mark bavaro did.
10 years is a long career for a Tight End. Gronk would be a HOFer for sure if he hit that mark. I'm just not sure you could label him as the best ever. He'd be like the Shaq of TEs.
 

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10 years is a long career for a Tight End. Gronk would be a HOFer for sure if he hit that mark. I'm just not sure you could label him as the best ever. He'd be like the Shaq of TEs.
hes good for nearly a TD per start.
 

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maybe. mark bavaro did.

The guy that keeps coming up with the older guys when talking about TE's is Kellen Winslow. I didn't see enough of him and he only played 9 or 10 years. Hard to compare eras though.
 
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