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Gronk becomes 1st TE in NFL history with 3 seasons of 1,000 yards & 10 TD's

Rock Strongo

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Between Witten & Novacek I'd take Witten every time. Receiving wise it's not even close.



Witten: 1,008- 11,096-59 / 10x Pro Bowler (2x 1st team)
Novacek: 422- 4,630-30 / 5x Pro Bowler (1x 1st team)
again

different types of teams.

different types of players.

different eras.
 

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different types of teams.

different types of players.

different eras.

I think ya just wanna argue w/ anyone that doesn't agree w/ you.:D Novacek was a damn good player...but Witten is better.
 

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I think ya just wanna argue w/ anyone that doesn't agree w/ you.:D Novacek was a damn good player...but Witten is better.
a cog on 3 SB winners

college football HOF

5 prow bowl, 5 all pro selections (in a row)

witten plays with pass happy romo in a pass happy league. novacek played with aikmans 200 YPG passing in a run heavy league.
 

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well, youre the guy who calls witten the best ever, and he isnt even the bets cowboys TE ever.

id take novacek 3 times before witten

Antonio Gates needs more love. After Gonzalez, he's #2 in my book. Gronk can get there, but staying on he field does matter.
 

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He's more of WR. He doesn't block well.

Witten, Gonzalez, Gates and Sharpe are/were all better.


Ummmmm, he's actually the best blocking TE in the league, wtf are you talking about?
 

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Gronkowski might be the only Patriot I like.
 

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a cog on 3 SB winners

college football HOF

5 prow bowl, 5 all pro selections (in a row)

witten plays with pass happy romo in a pass happy league. novacek played with aikmans 200 YPG passing in a run heavy league.

And Witten went to 7 Pro Bowls in a row from '04-'10. 7 in a row is better than 5. Tell me Rock what does the college HOF have to do w/ the NFL again? Novacek isn't even in the HOF (meaning the NFL) & he retired 20 years ago. Yet when Witten's career is over no question he'll be heading to Canton.
 

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And Witten went to 7 Pro Bowls in a row from '04-'10. 7 in a row is better than 5. Tell me Rock what does the college HOF have to do w/ the NFL again? Novacek isn't even in the HOF (meaning the NFL) & he retired 20 years ago. Yet when Witten's career is over no question he'll be heading to Canton.

debatable
 

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Gronkowski might be the only Patriot I like.
Delphic you may be the only Steeler fan we like?
Actually, that's wrong we don't like any of you:lol:
 

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And Witten went to 7 Pro Bowls in a row from '04-'10. 7 in a row is better than 5. Tell me Rock what does the college HOF have to do w/ the NFL again? Novacek isn't even in the HOF (meaning the NFL) & he retired 20 years ago. Yet when Witten's career is over no question he'll be heading to Canton.

why are we saying Pro Bowls make you better than one other player? Pro Bowls? Come on people we can do so much better than that!
 

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why are we saying Pro Bowls make you better than one other player? Pro Bowls? Come on people we can do so much better than that!

I was comparing career #'s, not so much Pro Bowl selections. I mentioned the stats & it was Rock that brought you the Pro Bowls & the fact that Novacek is in the CFB hall. Witten has more than twice as many receptions & yards & is 1 TD away from doubling up Novacek in that category. Of course the NFL is more pass happy today than they were during Novacek's era but I still think Witten is the better TE of the two.
 

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I was comparing career #'s, not so much Pro Bowl selections. I mentioned the stats & it was Rock that brought you the Pro Bowls & the fact that Novacek is in the CFB hall. Witten has more than twice as many receptions & yards & is 1 TD away from doubling up Novacek in that category. Of course the NFL is more pass happy today than they were during Novacek's era but I still think Witten is the better TE of the two.

sorry, I wasn't directing that towards you. It seems like more and more people are using that as a way to say someone is better than so and so because of a Pro Bowl selection which is just stupid. I think Witten is better imo but I can see why people debate it
 

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its true

best TE to ever play IMO. gonzalez is the water mark, but gronks shattering his pace.

may the boy stay healthy.
Physically the guy is not only big and strong, but deceptively quick and fast. I can't remember what game it was, but he was being covered by a CB that was probably in the 5'10" 190/200 lb area and I thought that if Brady sees this one on one matchup, it's over. Sure enough, Gronk literally pushed the CB on his arse and caught a pass wide open for 30+ yards.
 
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