Great example why Lebron will never reach Michael Jordan status

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

They shouldn't be, titles are team awards...A lot and i mean a lot of better players than others have not won any titles...doesn't make those players that won rings any better on an individual basis

Okay....you want to go by individual accomplishments?

Jordan has more Finals (6) and Regular Season MVP's(5).

They are tied for 10 first team all nba's. But, Jordan has 9 all nba first team defense to Lebron's 5.

Jordan has been scoring champ 10 times to Lebron's 1.

Jordan still wins.

 

[Black Adam]

Okay....you want to go by individual accomplishments?

Jordan has more Finals and Regular Season MVP's.

They are tied for 10 first team all nba's. But, Jordan has 9 all nba first team defense to Lebron's 5.

Jordan has been scoring champ 10 times to Lebron's 1.

Jordan still wins.

Game. Set. Match...

looking forward to the response...

instigating? who me...?

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Game. Set. Match...

looking forward to the response...

instigating? who me...?

I get why he wants to use age 31 as the barometer.

It makes it a much closer comparison.

Again: Jordan's career is a finished product, which slants the deck in his favor.

So, maybe we should wait until Lebron hangs them up or clearly surpasses MJ before we crown him GOAT.

 

[lebron23james]

Okay....you want to go by individual accomplishments?

Jordan has more Finals (6) and Regular Season MVP's(5).

They are tied for 10 first team all nba's. But, Jordan has 9 all nba first team defense to Lebron's 5.

Jordan has been scoring champ 10 times to Lebron's 1.

Jordan still wins.

My original post in the thread was lebron vs jordan at age 31

Somehow the goal posts keep getting moved....

 

[Black Adam]

I get why he wants to use age 31 as the barometer.

It makes it a much closer comparison.

Again: Jordan's career is a finished product, which slants the deck in his favor.

So, maybe we should wait until Lebron hangs them up or clearly surpasses MJ before we crown him GOAT.

and i'm not disagreeing. that'd be TOTALLY fair no matter how I felt about the guy...

that's simply called being reasonable...

 

[Bulletz]

Okay....you want to go by individual accomplishments?

Jordan has more Finals (6) and Regular Season MVP's(5).

They are tied for 10 first team all nba's. But, Jordan has 9 all nba first team defense to Lebron's 5.

Jordan has been scoring champ 10 times to Lebron's 1.

Jordan still wins.

Not to mention that the NBA is a lot easier for scorers now than it was in Jordan's day. MJ might have averaged 40 a game nowadays, which sounds crazy until you realize he averaged 37 a game one season even back then.

 

[lebron23james]

I get why he wants to use age 31 as the barometer.

It makes it a much closer comparison.

Again: Jordan's career is a finished product, which slants the deck in his favor.

So, maybe we should wait until Lebron hangs them up or clearly surpasses MJ before we crown him GOAT.

I had these same arguments kobe vs lebron...that argument is over...Now it's onto jordan

We will see who is right

 

[Black Adam]

Not to mention that the NBA is a lot easier for scorers now than it was in Jordan's day. MJ might have averaged 40 a game nowadays, which sounds crazy until you realize he averaged 37 a game one season even back then.

considering the rule changes, zone defenses, etc you might just be right. lol had the same argument about Jerry West years ago if the NBA had the 3 point line back in the 60's...

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

My original post in the thread was lebron vs jordan at age 31

Somehow the goal posts keep getting moved....

So, what you are saying is, we should only use a formula that tips the deck in your guys favor?

I agree it's very competitive using age 31.

But, you have yet to agree that using any other comparison point, like first round 3 season or career vs career, makes this a pointless debate.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I had these same arguments kobe vs lebron...that argument is over...Now it's onto jordan

We will see who is right

Agree.

If Lebron wins 2 or 3 more titles or MVP's, it blows my argument to shit.

But, if he never wins again?

He will be a ring below Jordan, just like Kobe.

 

[Black Adam]

So, what you are saying is, we should only use a formula that tips the deck in your guys favor?

I agree it's very competitive using age 31.

But, you have yet to agree that using any other comparison point, like first round 3 season or career vs career, makes this a pointless debate.

Translation: it ain't US moving the goal posts...

 

[lebron23james]

So, what you are saying is, we should only use a formula that tips the deck in your guys favor?

I agree it's very competitive using age 31.

But, you have yet to agree that using any other comparison point, like first round 3 season or career vs career, makes this a pointless debate.

There is no requirement for how short or long you play in the nba

So if lebron plays 10 more years are you going to dock everything he does individually because he played longer?

 

[Black Adam]

Agree.

If Lebron wins 2 or 3 more titles or MVP's, it blows my argument to shit.

But, if he never wins again?

He will be a ring below Jordan, just like Kobe.

THREE rings, but who's counting...

 

[lebron23james]

Translation: it ain't US moving the goal posts...

Translation: when you move an argument from the original point it's moving the goal post

 

[Black Adam]

Translation: when you move an argument from the original point it's moving the goal post

YOU did that. nice try...

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Not to mention that the NBA is a lot easier for scorers now than it was in Jordan's day. MJ might have averaged 40 a game nowadays, which sounds crazy until you realize he averaged 37 a game one season even back then.

Yeah.....

I don't even think Lebron and Jordan are comparable players.

Lebron is some shit we have never seen before.

I guess the closest thing would be Magic. But, that doesn't fit exactly.

He's almost like a Malone and Magic hybrid...lol

Kobe is the only player that I am comfortable comparing straight up with MJ.

Both guys were huge scorers. Bron can. But, he is more well rounded.

 

[lebron23james]

YOU did that. nice try...

Nope, try harder troll

Go back to your strawman argument on rings it had me rofl

 

[Black Adam]

Nope, try harder troll

rings and stats made a fool of you. sorrryyyyy...

DO continue to troll on...

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

There is no requirement for how short or long you play in the nba

So if lebron plays 10 more years are you going to dock everything he does individually because he played longer?

Why would I?

I'm judging them based on career accomplishments, not stopping at a certain age so it skews the stats in my favor.

 

[lebron23james]

A guy with 14k posts and 9,000 trying to trash lebron shouldn't be calling anyone a troll

Lebron is in your head, you must have had a meltdown when he won the ring over the greatest team ever