Great example why Lebron will never reach Michael Jordan status

[lebron23james]

confirmed: this clown apparently can't read. ah well...

Let me know when you are ready to answer the question..

 

[Black Adam]

Oh brother...

Didn't you just say Kyrie was top 10?

Now we are docking Jordan for his teammates?

So, Bill Russell, Larry Bird, Kareem and Magic should get an asterisk too?

But, doesn't that mean Lebron should be penalized for his Heatles titles?

I mean, didn't he play with 2 other top 15 guys?

the guy's all over the landscape with this crap...

clearly his mom let him stay up too late...

 

[Sportsguy9695]

Jordan will always be lifetimes cooler than Lebron for the simple fact that Jordan rocks the bald head and insecure Lebron got plugs AND paint. Cmon now.

yea but being the best isnt about looking the best. this isnt a beauty contest.

 

[lebron23james]

Dude, I am a self-admitted Jordan fan girl....

I fully admit it.

But, he's not Jordan, yet.

I think he could get there.

But, he needs a few more titles.

I agree with this...I never actually said he was there or better...I just compared them both now, chiefflakers flew off the handle with rage and can't answer a simple question because it ruins his point

 

[tlance]

Jordan and lebron have very similar stats...jordan happened to have a better team, but even he wasn't winning till he had a team that could win 50+ games without him....has lebron ever played on a team that won 50+ games without him?

Before Pippen arrived. Jordan 1-9 in the postseason.

The Heat were a team like that for sure. You can't compare before or after because the rosters were not close to the same. With prime Wade and a healthy Bosh, they were probably a 60 win team.

This Cleveland group though? Might not have won 35. If you were rationale, you would see that as a huge knock on Kyrie.

 

[Black Adam]

I agree, no question. Also, Jordan would probably have 1 or 2 more rings if he hadn't retired after winning titles... Twice.

Still though, in some ways, I think comparing accolades after 13 years is just as bad as comparing at age 31. LeBron has passed a bunch of greats already, but I think it is best to leave the Jordan comparison until he has hung em up. Only then will we know for sure.

For me, it will take 3 more seasons at the top of the NBA and at least 2 more titles. MVP awards are a little tougher. He might not win another because he won't play 80 games, but we all know he is the best and probably should have 7 or 8, just like Jordan should have had more than 6.

oh no doubt. OR if he hadn't played baseball for what, 3 season...?

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I agree, no question. Also, Jordan would probably have 1 or 2 more rings if he hadn't retired after winning titles... Twice.

Still though, in some ways, I think comparing accolades after 13 years is just as bad as comparing at age 31. LeBron has passed a bunch of greats already, but I think it is best to leave the Jordan comparison until he has hung em up. Only then will we know for sure.

For me, it will take 3 more seasons at the top of the NBA and at least 2 more titles. MVP awards are a little tougher. He might not win another because he won't play 80 games, but we all know he is the best and probably should have 7 or 8, just like Jordan should have had more than 6.

Oh, I totally agree.

Me using 13 Seasons was my way of showing how you can manipulate the stats.

I stated that in my first post.

I like Lebron. But, I love Jordan.

So, I'm totally biased.

 

[Black Adam]

Let me know when you are ready to answer the question..

been there, did it...

the saga continues...

 

[lebron23james]

The Heat were a team like that for sure. You can't compare before or after because the rosters were not close to the same. With prime Wade and a healthy Bosh, they were probably a 60 win team.

This Cleveland group though? Might not have won 35. If you were rationale, you would see that as a huge knock on Kyrie.

The 4 heat teams never measured up statistically to the jordan bulls teams...

Irving is not in his prime yet

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Is that your only argument who has more titles

If more titles was the case for a player mj wouldn't even be close to goat

Evade, ignore..rinse repeat.

We are talking about 2 players in particular, not everyone who has ever played the game.

Jordan > Lebron

I know it hurts. But, it's the truth...at least for a few more Seasons.

 

[tlance]

oh no doubt. OR if he hadn't played baseball for what, 3 season...?

Only 1.5, but still, they were prime years.

 

[lebron23james]

been there, did it...

the saga continues...

Your 6-6 argument got wrecked

 

[tlance]

The 4 heat teams never measured up statistically to the jordan bulls teams...

Irving is not in his prime yet

Putting words in my mouth.

All I said was that they were probably a 60 win team.

 

[Black Adam]

Only 1.5, but still, they were prime years.

that's what I get for going off of memory, but I hear ya...

 

[lebron23james]

Evade, ignore..rinse repeat.

We are talking about 2 players in particular, not everyone who has ever played the game.

Jordan > Lebron

I know it hurts. But, it's the truth...at least for a few more Seasons.

So if Lebron had the same exact stats and had slightly better teammates and was 7-7 would he be ahead of Jordone right now? His stats would be exactly the same

Which is why the titles argument is a terrible argument...

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Lebron has 1 more mvp same amount of rings at age 31

but the kicker...Lebron win share .192 jordone win share .154

Agreed...using your formula of stats by age 31.

Now, who wins if we use the first 13 Seasons?

 

[Black Adam]

Your 6-6 argument got wrecked

6-0, and It didn't but you can cry yourself to sleep pretending it did...

 

[lebron23james]

Putting words in my mouth.

All I said was that they were probably a 60 win team.

While they weren't a 60 win team

Is orlando probably a playoff team?

 

[lebron23james]

6-0, and It didn't but you can cry yourself to sleep pretending it did...

Nope

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

So if Lebron had the same exact stats and had slightly better teammates and was 7-7 would he be ahead of Jordone right now? His stats would be exactly the same

Which is why the titles argument is a terrible argument...

More evasion.

I don't have any issue with you and have never referred to you as a troll.

We don't have to agree on this and it's actually more fun if we don't.