Series Thread: Golden State Warriors vs. Cleveland Cavaliers NBA Finals Thread

[Across The Field]

Just because you don't understand a point doesn't mean it isn't a good one or that I'm falling short. And honestly, I don't know how else to explain it so you can understand...moving on.

So let me ask you this. Do you really think your team won't need more than 22 minutes from Kyrie to beat the Warriors? Be honest. Kyrie hasn't been 'healthy' in a long time, like it or not. And you were winning big against a team that didn't have many shooters cause Delly was taking out their legs...come on!

What tougher competition has Thompson played against? The Nets? The Hawks? Stop it, please.

You weren't making a point. I understand it fine; there are going to be times during the game where Curry drives and one of the bigs will have to defend a shot. It happens in every game with nearly every guard, so it goes without saying. You were simply stating the obvious, not making a relevant point, especially when I never once tried to insinuate our bigs would stop him in the first place.

I know we'll need more than 22 minutes. Let me ask you this - did you know he could've easily played more than 22 minutes but he sat basically the entire 4th quarter because he didn't need to play? It's called sitting your stars. We also sat Lebron for almost the whole 4th. That's what smart teams do. Also, he was plenty "healthy" until game 6 vs. Chicago. Did you know the 9 playoff games leading up to that game, he averaged 21.3 ppg and 40 min per game? Hard to imagine him playing that much if he wasn't "healthy", wouldn't you say?

We didn't face the Nets, dumbass. We faced the Bulls and Hawks after Love went down. Do you think those aren't tougher teams than Boston?

 

[Wamu]

 

[Hambombs]

Pretty much my thoughts lol

 

[Shanemansj13]

First, I didn't say either of them would be guarding Curry but used them as examples since that is Clevelands 'bigs'....im sure you can make the connection. The fact LBJ won't be guarding Curry is my point. Why put your best guy on someone you can't stop no matter what? And I agree that outside of LBJ Shump is probably your best bet against Steph, but be prepared for Shump to be in foul trouble.

I think there's also one other fact you conveniently left out in reference to the difference on the Cavs team in the reg season vs. now. Kyrie is limping around as well. And, isn't he one of the big 3??? So again, this isn't the same team that faced the Warriors in the reg season. Which brings me to your rant about spouting off about the reg season. Those things make a big difference since it changes the scheme of things...and THAT is the reason I brought the comparison up in the first place. Finally, I think it's great you have confidence in Thompson like you do but he doesn't have the experience Love has, period. I can't wait to see how he does against a top defending team that also happens to be a top offensive team such as the Warriors.

Love has NO experience, right now TT has more experience than Love lol. TT has gone up against a former DPOY in Noah, also went up against Gibson. He went up against All-Stars in Millsap and Horford. I doubt a good defensive player in Bogut or Green that lack offensive game is going to be tougher for him.

Just think about this Lebron alone has more experience than the whole GS roster alone, by far. Experience makes a huge difference we will see if it affects GS at all, especially in crunchtime.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Here we go. One team that hasn't won a title vs. one that never has.

Who ya got?

The Team that traded a potential Franchise player for Love

or

The Team that didn't?

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

That was supposed to say hasn't won a title since the '70's.

I postaculated prematurely or something.

It's okay, Honey.

It happens to lots of guys.

 

[Shanemansj13]

The seeding has everything to do with who has advantages. It decides the match ups in every single round. I think you might need to find a different way to make that your point there....whatever your point is/was. And the rest of the team may be shooting 30% from the 3 pt line, however, it hasn't stopped them from scoring in the paint which last time I checked is also allowed.

And in case you missed it, Memphis tried to wear the Warriors down by getting physical...I wonder how well that worked out for them. I totally agree about Howard. Thank goodness Bogut doesn't have the same philosophy.

Well you were saying Cleveland wasnt a #1 seed and told you why, they are not the same team. Seeding has advantages but it doesnt tell the whole story. Also, Houston plays a different game than Cleveland and they are overrated as a team in general, they dont play very good as one and very inconsistent like I have said before.

The fact is Cleveland actually has more viable weapons than GS, not more depth, but guys that can contribute with more consistent scoring and betters shooters. Hopefully it keeps up. And Curry better stay hot and Klay better get hot.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Good, everyone is taking GS

* compares the two rosters *

 

[LAD]

You weren't making a point. I understand it fine; there are going to be times during the game where Curry drives and one of the bigs will have to defend a shot. It happens in every game with nearly every guard, so it goes without saying. You were simply stating the obvious, not making a relevant point, especially when I never once tried to insinuate our bigs would stop him in the first place.

I know we'll need more than 22 minutes. Let me ask you this - did you know he could've easily played more than 22 minutes but he sat basically the entire 4th quarter because he didn't need to play? It's called sitting your stars. We also sat Lebron for almost the whole 4th. That's what smart teams do. Also, he was plenty "healthy" until game 6 vs. Chicago. Did you know the 9 playoff games leading up to that game, he averaged 21.3 ppg and 40 min per game? Hard to imagine him playing that much if he wasn't "healthy", wouldn't you say?

We didn't face the Nets, dumbass. We faced the Bulls and Hawks after Love went down. Do you think those aren't tougher teams than Boston?

So if you understood it fine then why haven't you moved on from it? Because clearly my point missed it's mark with you but it's ok, I'm not judging you.

You really want people to believe that Kyrie is 'healthy' after being diagnosed with tendinitis? Now that's funny. In response to your question did I know he could've easily played more minutes...no I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been easy for him as tendinitis has a tendacy to prevent you from playing at full capacity because of the pain & swelling. And considering in the playoffs games are played every other night with only one additional day off for traveling. And no it wouldn't be hard to play that much during the reg season since at most they played two games a week.

And you're correct, you played the Bulls & not the Nets. I made a mistake...so shoot me. Of course those were tougher teams than Boston. But even tougher were the last two teams the Warriors faced.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Allday, you in here making Friends with the Cavs fans?

You are a hardcore Laker fan.

But, you have been a believer in the Warriors for years.

I got Splash in 6.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Well I mentioned the 'bigs' because usually it is their job to defend the rim, is it not??? And maybe you don't know that Steph is the point and he does penetrate which makes the defense switch A LOT. So yes, what I said makes a lot of sense. I agree those numbers would indicate Shump did a good job in THAT game. And I have no doubts the Cavs will win a game or two. But this is a SERIES...big difference my friend.

No honestly I didn't watch much of the Cleveland/ATL series but I'm pretty sure 22 minutes isn't what he normally plays in a game, right? I think you know where I'm going with this. LOL

And I'm talking about experience being in the league. Love is considered an all-star & a vet, yes?

They were up 20+ why would he play to risk injury in the 2nd half? Doesnt seem like you watched much of Cleveland in the playoffs lol. This team is different.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Love has NO experience, right now TT has more experience than Love lol. TT has gone up against a former DPOY in Noah, also went up against Gibson. He went up against All-Stars in Millsap and Horford. I doubt a good defensive player in Bogut or Green that lack offensive game is going to be tougher for him.

Just think about this Lebron alone has more experience than the whole GS roster alone, by far. Experience makes a huge difference we will see if it affects GS at all, especially in crunchtime.

After game 1, the experience stuff won't mean much if anything.
It's just a matter of not getting caught up in the hype, drama, ticket requests, etc vs actually playing the games.

The Warriors didn't have any experience in the WCF and they handled it just fine.

 

[LAD]

Well you were saying Cleveland wasnt a #1 seed and told you why, they are not the same team. Seeding has advantages but it doesnt tell the whole story. Also, Houston plays a different game than Cleveland and they are overrated as a team in general, they dont play very good as one and very inconsistent like I have said before.

The fact is Cleveland actually has more viable weapons than GS, not more depth, but guys that can contribute with more consistent scoring and betters shooters. Hopefully it keeps up. And Curry better stay hot and Klay better get hot.

I never said anything about Cleveland not being the #1 seed. And I will just agree to disagree about the Cavs having better shooters. LOL at Curry better stay hot...you do realize he has already shattered the 3 pt record? I'm pretty sure his accuracy isn't a matter of staying 'hot'.

 

[LAD]

They were up 20+ why would he play to risk injury in the 2nd half? Doesnt seem like you watched much of Cleveland in the playoffs lol. This team is different.

Oh I certainly agree he should've been taken out if they were winning by a lot. But that wasn't my point. My point is Kyrie isn't fully healthy and it's gonna take more than him playing 22 minutes (regardless of why it was done) to beat the Warriors.

 

[Shanemansj13]

So pretty much cavs fans are saying we shouldn't show up for the finals. Shump and lebron are going to automatically make Thompson and curry go 0-15 each while LBJ WILL SCORE 50-60 points easily against us. While Thompson and mozgov are going to grab every board over bogut and green? While curry is a little guy at 6 foot 3 and 190 pounds who can't play against someone that's physical? Nobody is over 6 foot 8 to score on our team. Warriors shoot nothing but jumpers, they haven't taken the ball to the rim once this year! Does that sounds about right?

No pretty much they are respectable defenders. Warrior fans and fans in general have already locked this series up. One thing I have learned is dont take Lebron James for granted, bc just when you do he will show how great he is. 4 games to win it all. He might be getting "old" but I'm sure he can give it his all for four more games lol.

Warrior fans are acting like this is the greatest team to ever play. I saw a team that won it all last year that was better than this team, not taking anything away but experience makes all the difference in the world. People really take it for granted...there is regular season, playoffs, then there is the BIG stage. None compares to it.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I never said anything about Cleveland not being the #1 seed. And I will just agree to disagree about the Cavs having better shooters. LOL at Curry better stay hot...you do realize he has already shattered the 3 pt record? I'm pretty sure his accuracy isn't a matter of staying 'hot'.

Who does GS have other than Curry and Thompson that can shoot, please tell me? I already looked at the numbers, not one player is over around 32% from 3. And yes you said shooters.

JR, Delly, Shump, Jones, and Irving all above I believe 37%

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Well you were saying Cleveland wasnt a #1 seed and told you why, they are not the same team. Seeding has advantages but it doesnt tell the whole story. Also, Houston plays a different game than Cleveland and they are overrated as a team in general, they dont play very good as one and very inconsistent like I have said before.

The fact is Cleveland actually has more viable weapons than GS, not more depth, but guys that can contribute with more consistent scoring and betters shooters. Hopefully it keeps up. And Curry better stay hot and Klay better get hot.

I agree with most of what you say.

Folks expecting the Cavs to get blown out in 5?

I think that's wishful thinking.

Look, Bron is equally loved and despised by the public and your fellow Cavs fans on this site * Russy* has made most here pray for the day that he crawls back into that large hole he's dug for himself.

* Not me,,cause I like the Guy *

Just like the Cavs have no answer for Curry, no Team on the planet has an answer for Lebron.

I personally believe that the Warriors are the better Team and it's just their year. But, I'm not petty enough to believe that the Cavs have no chance.

I just don't think I can put my trust in a guy like JR. Smith.

He and Shump wou;ld need to play " Otherwordly " for the Cavs to win....imo

 

[LAD]

Love has NO experience, right now TT has more experience than Love lol. TT has gone up against a former DPOY in Noah, also went up against Gibson. He went up against All-Stars in Millsap and Horford. I doubt a good defensive player in Bogut or Green that lack offensive game is going to be tougher for him.

Just think about this Lebron alone has more experience than the whole GS roster alone, by far. Experience makes a huge difference we will see if it affects GS at all, especially in crunchtime.

Didn't Love play in that first series? LOL

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Who does GS have other than Curry and Thompson that can shoot, please tell me? I already looked at the numbers, not one player is over around 32% from 3. And yes you said shooters.

JR, Delly, Shump, Jones, and Irving all above I believe 37%

Tonya Harding * coughs* Delly shoots < 37%?

Seriously, I didn't know that.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Allday, you in here making Friends with the Cavs fans?

You are a hardcore Laker fan.

But, you have been a believer in the Warriors for years.

I got Splash in 6.

So is he Lakers or Warriors? Pretty sure he is Lakers then lol