FINAL PREDCTIONS: Free Agency Predictions

[trojanfan12]

Obviously the Heat would have to dump some salary. Whom or what?
Who knows?

Yeah, the Heat, Butler and his agent must be at least fairly confident that they can create the space to sign him...otherwise, why would either side waste their time?

 

[WiggyRuss]

Whoaa.
Ive never said that I’d sell the farm to get Butler.
Id have to see end deal before offering an opinion.
Im saying if he wants to come, the Heat will find a way whether Philly is involved or not if they really want him.

I am saying you are not looking at reality if you think the Heat can go from so far over the cap with guys that have so much negative value to 30M+ under the cap.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Yeah, the Heat, Butler and his agent must be at least fairly confident that they can create the space to sign him...otherwise, why would either side waste their time?

Exactly.
#notrocketscience

Philly would focus on Winslow, J Rich or Bam ++
If Im Riley they aren't getting more then one of them or no deal.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Yeah, the Heat, Butler and his agent must be at least fairly confident that they can create the space to sign him...otherwise, why would either side waste their time?

it amazes me how people just ignore plain and simple math.

The cap is 109

Onlyk- 11.7
Whiteside- 27.1
Anderson- 21.2
Dragic- 19.2
JJohnson- 15.1
Winslow- 13.0
Onlyk- 11.7
Waiters- 12.1
Richardson- 10.1
Adebayo- 3.5

= 144.7

to get max cap space they need to get down to 77m.

How do you shave $67.7M off of the cap with no first rounder to trade until 2023?

 

[bksballer89]

Heat wouldn't meet with Butler if they didn't think a deal would be made.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

I am saying you are not looking at reality if you think the Heat can go from so far over the cap with guys that have so much negative value to 30M+ under the cap.

Yet Butler is in Miami ready to meet with Riley.
Space is created all the time in many different ways.
Heat have probably the best in the game at figuring things out in Andy Eilsburg.

Why not just let the people involved do their jobs vs you telling us what they can or can't do?

You think there is really a scenario in which both sides want each other and Riley will have to announce that the Heat couldn't find a way to get it done?

What YOU are calling terrible contracts in some cases really aren't that terrible considering some are expiring.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Heat wouldn't meet with Butler if they didn't think a deal would be made.

Maybe not would, but for sure at least could.

 

[Black Adam]

Heat wouldn't meet with Butler if they didn't think a deal would be made.

tf12 pretty much said the same thing...

someone seems awful worried about your franchise, though...

 

[Stakesarehigh]

actually I think its pretty difficult to understand--- what if the Sixers say--- sure go for it Jimmy--- go to the Heat or Rockets--- 2 teams with no cap room- go fuck yourself and sign for the mid level.

then what?

Then he can't sign obviously lol

 

[bksballer89]

Then he can't sign obviously lol

Then he signs with a team with cap space. Philly lose him for nothing

 

[Stakesarehigh]

They don't have to make space but if Jimmy basically says "I'm not signing with you regardless" turning down J Rich for example would be kinda crazy.

 

[Wamu]

I'm surprised more FA's aren't interested in Miami. They could hangout w/ Gonzalo Le Bartard.

 

[trojanfan12]

it amazes me how people just ignore plain and simple math.

The cap is 109

Onlyk- 11.7
Whiteside- 27.1
Anderson- 21.2
Dragic- 19.2
JJohnson- 15.1
Winslow- 13.0
Onlyk- 11.7
Waiters- 12.1
Richardson- 10.1
Adebayo- 3.5

= 144.7

to get max cap space they need to get down to 77m.

How do you shave $67.7M off of the cap with no first rounder to trade until 2023?

I don't know how they do it and intimated as much in my post.

Maybe the Heat have a blueprint on how they can get it done that they chose to share with Butler and his agent instead of you?

As I said, maybe both sides think the Heat can get it done. Otherwise, why would either side waste their time.

Perhaps Butler is willing to help them out by taking a little less than his full max. I don't know how much truth there was to it, but there was a rumor that he was willing to do that for the Lakers.

 

[Black Adam]

They don't have to make space but if Jimmy basically says "I'm not signing with you regardless" turning down J Rich for example would be kinda crazy.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I don't know how they do it and intimated as much in my post.

Maybe the Heat have a blueprint on how thy can get it done that they chose to share with Butler and his agent instead of you?

As I said, maybe both sides think the Heat can get it done. Otherwise, why would either side waste their time.

Perhaps Butler is willing to help them out by taking a little less than his full max. I don't know how much truth there was to it, but there was a rumor that he was willing to do that for the Lakers.

By doing a sign and trade Miami can operate above the cap as long as they deal for similar salary.

 

[Black Adam]

I'm surprised more FA's aren't interested in Miami. They could hangout w/ Gonzalo Le Bartard.

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lol my one and ONLY gripe about being in Florida was the weather...

other than that, it was a time i'll never forget...

 

[tlance]

I don't know how they do it and intimated as much in my post.

Maybe the Heat have a blueprint on how they can get it done that they chose to share with Butler and his agent instead of you?

As I said, maybe both sides think the Heat can get it done. Otherwise, why would either side waste their time.

Perhaps Butler is willing to help them out by taking a little less than his full max. I don't know how much truth there was to it, but there was a rumor that he was willing to do that for the Lakers.

If Philly can get back an asset like Richardson and an expiring contract, that is definitely better for them than Butler walking. So I think Philly might be willing to work something out even if the return was minimal.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

@WiggyRuss

It sure is looking like something is brewing. No?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

If Philly can get back an asset like Richardson and an expiring contract, that is definitely better for them than Butler walking. So I think Philly might be willing to work something out even if the return was minimal.

I was wondering if they value Whiteside enough to take him and J Rich as the replacements for Boban/Reddick

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

By doing a sign and trade Miami can operate above the cap as long as they deal for similar salary.

No.
@WiggyRuss says he can't possibly come here.

#dothemath