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[Shanemansj13]

 

[TREFF]

And now that Fuller has been discussed...watch that empty blurb fill up within 24 hours

un-fucking-believable. Shockingly though, they didn't directly steal any of our thoughts- @averagejoe

Cleveland.com's Mary Kay Cabot reports that "Will Fuller is not currently on the radar" for the Browns.​

It is notable because of the Browns' acute need at receiver and Fuller's history with new Browns starter Deshaun Watson. Watson's public market has been almost nonexistent this offseason. It has been months since there was a real update on his mangled finger. Fuller is going to get a 2022 shot somewhere, but he might need to wait for a camp injury or two to get something closer to the contract he is pursuing.

 

[averagejoe]

Shockingly though, they didn't directly steal any of our thoughts- @averagejoe

Cleveland.com's Mary Kay Cabot reports that "Will Fuller is not currently on the radar" for the Browns.​

It is notable because of the Browns' acute need at receiver and Fuller's history with new Browns starter Deshaun Watson. Watson's public market has been almost nonexistent this offseason. It has been months since there was a real update on his mangled finger. Fuller is going to get a 2022 shot somewhere, but he might need to wait for a camp injury or two to get something closer to the contract he is pursuing.

Close enough.
Maybe its a given any football-minded person could have connected Watson and Fuller.... but they mention it today. As in TODAY. The same day we are discussing him! Of all days!

 

[Shanemansj13]

Close enough.
Maybe its a given any football-minded person could have connected Watson and Fuller.... but they mention it today. As in TODAY. The same day we are discussing him! Of all days!

I've heard the Fuller to the Browns rumors ever since they traded for Watson then Landry was likely to move on and it made even more sense. Drafting Bell I guess changed things a bit even though he is a rookie. Grabbing Fuller is good for depth but basically takes a young guy out of playing time even with injury risk.

I mean it could very well be that nobody picks him up until closer to the season and then the Browns still pick him up. I'm guessing you don't want Fuller on your Bears LOL

 

[averagejoe]

I'm guessing you don't want Fuller on your Bears LOL

This isnt a Knight/Day thing.

Its not like he'll make the Bears much better. If we're going to sign these kind of role players, then i want the one with the chip on his shoulder.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

un-fucking-believable. Shockingly though, they didn't directly steal any of our thoughts- @averagejoe

Cleveland.com's Mary Kay Cabot reports that "Will Fuller is not currently on the radar" for the Browns.​

It is notable because of the Browns' acute need at receiver and Fuller's history with new Browns starter Deshaun Watson. Watson's public market has been almost nonexistent this offseason. It has been months since there was a real update on his mangled finger. Fuller is going to get a 2022 shot somewhere, but he might need to wait for a camp injury or two to get something closer to the contract he is pursuing.

Don't think Fuller has ever played a full season in his career, gets hurt every year. Being injury prone only gets worse with every season and will take a toll on athletic abilities. Does not surprise me that he hasn't found a home.

 

[TREFF]

Don't think Fuller has ever played a full season in his career, gets hurt every year. Being injury prone only gets worse with every season and will take a toll on athletic abilities. Does not surprise me that he hasn't found a home.

True..however, the latest one was a thumb...that isn't sapping anything. assuming the thumb still works, and he still was at his prime when Miami signed him before the thumb. It's not like he's recovering from a shredded knee or torn hammy or achillies or whatever

 

[Shanemansj13]

 

[TREFF]

Is Gore really a HOF'er though?

While his longevity accumulated very impressive career totals-
-Zero 1st team all pros
-Zero rushing titles
-Never more than 10 rushing TDs in any season
-zero individual awards relating to production
-zero Super Bowl titles

-At no point in his career was he ever considered the best RB in the NFL, maybe not even top 3-5 at any given point. Is longevity, really impressive longevity, but never true greatness, is that enough to be enshrined among the best ever?
I dunno. If I had a vote I'd be torn, but hedging towards no

 

[TKOSpikes]

QB1 killer.

Hats off to you Mr. Fitzcrapstick! Much love to you, my good man.

Ryan Fitzpatrick in the stands at the Buffalo bills game!

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[Shanemansj13]

Is Gore really a HOF'er though?

While his longevity accumulated very impressive career totals-
-Zero 1st team all pros
-Zero rushing titles
-Never more than 10 rushing TDs in any season
-zero individual awards relating to production
-zero Super Bowl titles

-At no point in his career was he ever considered the best RB in the NFL, maybe not even top 3-5 at any given point. Is longevity, really impressive longevity, but never true greatness, is that enough to be enshrined among the best ever?
I dunno. If I had a vote I'd be torn, but hedging towards no

I had that debate with a coworker 4-5 years ago. How many times was he a top 10 RB in yards and TD’s? The answer is not enough, can’t remember the exact numbers but it was underwhelmimg

 

[femurov]

Is Gore really a HOF'er though?

While his longevity accumulated very impressive career totals-
-Zero 1st team all pros
-Zero rushing titles
-Never more than 10 rushing TDs in any season
-zero individual awards relating to production
-zero Super Bowl titles

-At no point in his career was he ever considered the best RB in the NFL, maybe not even top 3-5 at any given point. Is longevity, really impressive longevity, but never true greatness, is that enough to be enshrined among the best ever?
I dunno. If I had a vote I'd be torn, but hedging towards no

Guys like Henry Ellard and Art Monk come to mind.

 

[averagejoe]

Is Gore really a HOF'er though?

While his longevity accumulated very impressive career totals-
-Zero 1st team all pros
-Zero rushing titles
-Never more than 10 rushing TDs in any season
-zero individual awards relating to production
-zero Super Bowl titles

-At no point in his career was he ever considered the best RB in the NFL, maybe not even top 3-5 at any given point. Is longevity, really impressive longevity, but never true greatness, is that enough to be enshrined among the best ever?
I dunno. If I had a vote I'd be torn, but hedging towards no

Thats kind of harsh imo.
Gore has 12 straight seasons of 1000+ scrimmage yards.
Wonder how his contemporaries compare?
As for the top 3-5 ranking.... that may be an unfair comparison too.
Fantasy owners are always looking for younger and ceilings. My guess Gore's drop on any fantasy rankings had more to do with his age - you know, that threshold where fantasy owners think "no way he keeps this up at his age." Then the next year comes. And the next year. And the next.
Respect.

 

[TREFF]

Thats kind of harsh imo.
Gore has 12 straight seasons of 1000+ scrimmage yards.
Wonder how his contemporaries compare?
As for the top 3-5 ranking.... that may be an unfair comparison too.
Fantasy owners are always looking for younger and ceilings. My guess Gore's drop on any fantasy rankings had more to do with his age - you know, that threshold where fantasy owners think "no way he keeps this up at his age." Then the next year comes. And the next year. And the next.
Respect.

This is one of those very rare occasions I'm not speaking relative to fantasy football, and just simply football in general.

To me, you cannot be a Hall of Fame caliber player if you were never one of the elite elite at your position with you contemporaries. I mean if you were never the best, or amongst the very best, like #1 or #2 at worst #3, players at your position, during your career, how can you be considered one of the greatest of all time?

Early on, Shaun Slexander, LT, Tiki Barber, Larry Johnson, Clinton Portis, SJAX, Edge, and Willie Parker, all generally surpassed his production.
Then there was AP, Lynch, Forte, Micheal Turner, CJ2K, MJD, Ray Rice, Arian Foster, Jamal Charles, Shady, all them routinely out produced him. And after that, he's to the age were I wouldn't expect him to be amongst the best, even if he was better than all those guys at any given moment.

I mean I love the guy, mad respect for him being as productive as he was for as long as he was, but he was never in class with any of those guys (save for one single year in '06). But the HOF is supposedly an entirely different level of greatness.

 

[TREFF]

Guys like Henry Ellard and Art Monk come to mind.

Ellard led the league in receiving once, was first team all pro twice and isn't in the HOF either

Art Monk is in the HOF..BUT...did make an all pro team, did lead the league in receptions once..and was the leading receiver on 3 super bowl champions which definitely adds to his case, he got a ton of publicity and notoriety...not to mention he was basically the WR equivalent of Bo Jackson on Tecmo Bowl

 

[Shanemansj13]

Guys like Henry Ellard and Art Monk come to mind.

Lynn Swann

 

[femurov]

Ellard led the league in receiving once, was first team all pro twice and isn't in the HOF either

Art Monk is in the HOF..BUT...did make an all pro team, did lead the league in receptions once..and was the leading receiver on 3 super bowl champions which definitely adds to his case, he got a ton of publicity and notoriety...not to mention he was basically the WR equivalent of Bo Jackson on Tecmo Bowl

My bad. I thought Ellard was in.

 

[TREFF]

Lynn Swann

Again, gotta measure him against the era he was in, so his numbers certainly don't appear to be HOF, but..
4 super bowl rings, led the league in TD receptions once, first team all pro, super bowl MVP..
All stuff Gore doesn't have.

Although, in this case, I agree, Swann shouldn't be in either. But I think all you had to do was put on a Steelers uniform in the 70's and you got in automatically

 

[Chef99]

So, Deshaun Watson offered all 22 of his accusers 100k each to settle?

I don't think this is over yet.

 

[femurov]

So, Deshaun Watson offered all 22 of his accusers 100k each to settle?

I don't think this is over yet.

I thought it was up to 23.