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He's looking for Coleman money. After the way he played last year, that's not unfair. And what other RB has succeeded in the system? Breida? Then why did they trade him?
How far back you wanna go? Every back from Denver from like '95 to 2000-something, Every back in Houston starting with Slaton and ending when Kubs went to Denver, then Denver backs again for a little bit again, then Shanny Jr in Atlanta and now SF. The same old Alex Gibbs system throughout the whole thing..made careers for Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, Steve Slaton, and yes, perhaps Brieda (we'll see if he welts outside the Shanny sun this season or not) and who knows how many other backs who otherwise would've never been known for anything..including Mostert who was nothing but a special teams ace for 5 different teams in 3+ seasons before Shanny came..and even a full season after.

Is it a fair ask? Sure it is. But they know damned good and well they don't have to pay it too
 

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How far back you wanna go? Every back from Denver from like '95 to 2000-something, Every back in Houston starting with Slaton and ending when Kubs went to Denver, then Denver backs again for a little bit again, then Shanny Jr in Atlanta and now SF. The same old Alex Gibbs system throughout the whole thing..made careers for Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, Steve Slaton, and yes, perhaps Brieda (we'll see if he welts outside the Shanny sun this season or not) and who knows how many other backs who otherwise would've never been known for anything..including Mostert who was nothing but a special teams ace for 5 different teams in 3+ seasons before Shanny came..and even a full season after.

Is it a fair ask? Sure it is. But they know damned good and well they don't have to pay it too
They don’t have to pay him, but the amount seems sort of minor. Think they will come to a agreement of some sort.
 

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They don’t have to pay him, but the amount seems sort of minor. Think they will come to a agreement of some sort.
Entirely possible, they sure didn't need to give McKinnon his outrageous contract, nor Coleman's. Question is, have they been burnt enough paying RB's? Or are they willing to keep going? Plenty of good looking '21 rooks comin' up...And as previously mentioned, theres still Jeff Wilson, who all he did is score touchdowns dang near every time he touched the ball last year
 

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How far back you wanna go? Every back from Denver from like '95 to 2000-something, Every back in Houston starting with Slaton and ending when Kubs went to Denver, then Denver backs again for a little bit again, then Shanny Jr in Atlanta and now SF. The same old Alex Gibbs system throughout the whole thing..made careers for Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, Steve Slaton, and yes, perhaps Brieda (we'll see if he welts outside the Shanny sun this season or not) and who knows how many other backs who otherwise would've never been known for anything..including Mostert who was nothing but a special teams ace for 5 different teams in 3+ seasons before Shanny came..and even a full season after.

Is it a fair ask? Sure it is. But they know damned good and well they don't have to pay it too

Bro, you got me lost here. We shall have to agree to disagree. :suds:
 

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Bro, you got me lost here. We shall have to agree to disagree. :suds:
:). Shanny Jr.'s system, is by and large, the exact same system his daddy used, same one Kubiak used..all created by Alex Gibbs...to generate 1000 yards rushers from danged near anyone they drug off the street. Its not just Kyle and his couple years in SF and ATL, its the entire tree, starting with Mike Shanny and Alex Gibbs. Thats where I was going with it
 

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How far back you wanna go? Every back from Denver from like '95 to 2000-something, Every back in Houston starting with Slaton and ending when Kubs went to Denver, then Denver backs again for a little bit again, then Shanny Jr in Atlanta and now SF. The same old Alex Gibbs system throughout the whole thing..made careers for Mike Anderson, Olandis Gary, Steve Slaton, and yes, perhaps Brieda (we'll see if he welts outside the Shanny sun this season or not) and who knows how many other backs who otherwise would've never been known for anything..including Mostert who was nothing but a special teams ace for 5 different teams in 3+ seasons before Shanny came..and even a full season after.

Is it a fair ask? Sure it is. But they know damned good and well they don't have to pay it too
umm, olandis gary was a MF"n stud
 

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:). Shanny Jr.'s system, is by and large, the exact same system his daddy used, same one Kubiak used..all created by Alex Gibbs...to generate 1000 yards rushers from danged near anyone they drug off the street. Its not just Kyle and his couple years in SF and ATL, its the entire tree, starting with Mike Shanny and Alex Gibbs. Thats where I was going with it

Montee Ball. John Avery. Maurice Clarett.
 

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Domanick Davis. Vernand Morency.
 

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Montee Ball. John Avery. Maurice Clarett.

Man, keep the punches above the belt. Low blow. :)
But, Ball was actually a "product" of John Fox, who didn't run the Gibbs style zone blocking :suds:

Well not EVERY chunk of coal can be turned into a diamond, but by and large, that system churns out 1k yard rushers better than any others. For every "should've been" like that theres two Olandis Gary's or Steve Slaton's, or Alf Morris's, or Mike Anderson's, or Tatum Bell's
 
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:). Shanny Jr.'s system, is by and large, the exact same system his daddy used, same one Kubiak used..all created by Alex Gibbs...to generate 1000 yards rushers from danged near anyone they drug off the street. Its not just Kyle and his couple years in SF and ATL, its the entire tree, starting with Mike Shanny and Alex Gibbs. Thats where I was going with it
Dalvin Cook last year...

On and on for a quarter century
 

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Man, keep the punches above the belt. Low blow. :)
But, Ball was actually a "product" of John Fox, who didn't run the Gibbs style zone blocking :suds:

Well not EVERY chunk of coal can be turned into a diamond, but by and large, that system churns out 1k yard rushers better than any others. For every "should've been" like that theres two Olandis Gary's or Steve Slaton's, or Alf Morris's, or Mike Anderson's, or Tatum Bell's

Oh, stop now. If I can take the Trent Richardson mistake, you can take Montee. ;)
 

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Dalvin Cook last year...

On and on for a quarter century
Yeah but... Dalvin Cook is actually good at football. Mostert, I'm not 100% sure on. He looked great in the Yung Shanny system, which is more evolved than the other system(s) being talked about imo, but he was a journeyman before that so it's hard to tell.
 
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