Fantasy Football News and Rumors

[TREFF]

So the local yocal dudes were once again discussing the Broncos backfield.. Most are convinced this will be much more of a Derrick Henry/Dion Lewis type time share than it will be a D. Freeman/T. Coleman one. They say, the in the coaching career of new OC Pat Shurmur, every year where he has had control of the offense, he's had a singular back reach top 7 in touches. Kind of impressive and telling.
So I figured, I got the time, when was that, who was that, and just how productive were those top seven rankings?

In my mind, control of an offense is either OC or HC
So

RAMS OC '09 - Steven Jackson : 324 rushes, 1400+ yds, 4tds, 50 catches, 300+ yds

Rams OC '10 - SJAX 330 attempts, 1300+ yds, 6 TDs, 40 catches 380yds.

Head coach Cleveland '11 - Well Peyton Hillis certainly wasnt top 7..oops

HC Clevand '12 - TRich - 267 carries, 950 yds, 11 TDs, 3.4 ypc, 70 targets, 51 catches, 367 yds, 1 TD. yes, that's more like it.

Eagles OC '13 - Shady - 314 carries, 1600+, 9 TDs, 50+ catches, 500+, and another 3 TD's
Eagles OC '14 - Shady - 312, 1300+, 5 TDs, 20 catches 150 50yds

Eagles OC '15 - DeMarco Murray..he was not top 7, but he did basically double Ryan Mathews touches
Vikings OC '17 - this was the year Cook played 4 games. Lat. Murray was not top 7, not even close, he had 231 touches to McKinnons 201

HC Giants in 18 & 19- I think we all remember what Saquon did.

So my radio dudes are somewhat dropping the ball here. Shurmer has not ALWAYS had a back in the top 7 in touches...but, outside of year onee in Cleveland, the year Chip Kelly sent Shady packing in Philly, and the year in Minnesota where Cook got hurt, which is the ONLY blemish in a true lead back usage, he does give the RB the ball plenty, and he certainly does favor one back much more than the other, basically at least twice as much.

Could be disaster for Lindsay

 

[averagejoe]

Could be disaster for Lindsay

Could also be a disaster for the offense/Broncos.

09 Rams = 1-15
10 Rams = 7-9
11 Browns = 4-12
12 Browns = 5-11
13 Eagles = 10-6
14 Eagles = 10-6
15 Eagles = 7-9
17 Vikings = 13-3
18 Giants = 5-11
19 Giants = 4-12

 

[TREFF]

Could also be a disaster for the offense/Broncos.

09 Rams = 1-15
10 Rams = 7-9
11 Browns = 4-12
12 Browns = 5-11
13 Eagles = 10-6
14 Eagles = 10-6
15 Eagles = 7-9
17 Vikings = 13-3
18 Giants = 5-11
19 Giants = 4-12

Ha, well, it wasnt any good before

 

[Chef99]

latest blurb from Arians is that they'll look to add a pass catching RB to compliment RoJo

anybody worth taking notice on the FA front?
Really can't think of any that are left that would be useful for fantasy, but we all know TB12 will pepper a RB if that's what the defense is giving....I'd imagine if Godwin/Evans are healthy, that's exactly what a defense will be giving them in most games.

pick 3.76 or 4.117, you've been put on notice!

Devonta Freeman?

 

[TREFF]

Devonta Freeman?

Same thought went through my head as well.

 

[TREFF]

Funchess in GB. that might work. Big body, enormous catch radius, should work well the Rodgers ad libbing. Maybe now they font HAVE to go WR in the 1st, and can get the best of what's left later.

 

[eaglesnut]

Theres Riddick, Chris Thompson and Dion Lewis all hanging around

Brady can make any of them a 90 catch guy.

Of course none of them can stay healthy...

 

[Stomp]

Cam Newton to LAC possibly

 

[SteelersPride]

So the local yocal dudes were once again discussing the Broncos backfield.. Most are convinced this will be much more of a Derrick Henry/Dion Lewis type time share than it will be a D. Freeman/T. Coleman one. They say, the in the coaching career of new OC Pat Shurmur, every year where he has had control of the offense, he's had a singular back reach top 7 in touches. Kind of impressive and telling.
So I figured, I got the time, when was that, who was that, and just how productive were those top seven rankings?

In my mind, control of an offense is either OC or HC
So

RAMS OC '09 - Steven Jackson : 324 rushes, 1400+ yds, 4tds, 50 catches, 300+ yds

Rams OC '10 - SJAX 330 attempts, 1300+ yds, 6 TDs, 40 catches 380yds.

Head coach Cleveland '11 - Well Peyton Hillis certainly wasnt top 7..oops

HC Clevand '12 - TRich - 267 carries, 950 yds, 11 TDs, 3.4 ypc, 70 targets, 51 catches, 367 yds, 1 TD. yes, that's more like it.

Eagles OC '13 - Shady - 314 carries, 1600+, 9 TDs, 50+ catches, 500+, and another 3 TD's
Eagles OC '14 - Shady - 312, 1300+, 5 TDs, 20 catches 150 50yds

Eagles OC '15 - DeMarco Murray..he was not top 7, but he did basically double Ryan Mathews touches
Vikings OC '17 - this was the year Cook played 4 games. Lat. Murray was not top 7, not even close, he had 231 touches to McKinnons 201

HC Giants in 18 & 19- I think we all remember what Saquon did.

So my radio dudes are somewhat dropping the ball here. Shurmer has not ALWAYS had a back in the top 7 in touches...but, outside of year onee in Cleveland, the year Chip Kelly sent Shady packing in Philly, and the year in Minnesota where Cook got hurt, which is the ONLY blemish in a true lead back usage, he does give the RB the ball plenty, and he certainly does favor one back much more than the other, basically at least twice as much.

Could be disaster for Lindsay

This is what @FaCe-LeE-uS and I were trying to say last year with Conner and tomlin. But everyone kept telling us samuels was legit......... granted Conner got hurt. But that's been The M.O. look when Benny Snell got healthy......coaches have patterns that they stick too. I'm on board if that's been schurmers go of it as wel. They gave melvin some money! Do you believe that it's gonna be more
Melvin??

 

[SteelersPride]

kinda shocked when i saw this. Under 200 yards passing that often? never cracked 270..........

""Last season, Allen was consistent but rarely special. While he managed seven top-12 performances, over half of those finishes were as the QB10; Allen only ranked as a top-five quarterback once. Most of Allen’s top-12 performances were due to his rushing ability, as he managed under 200 passing yards in 38 percent of his outings and never surpassed 270 passing yards. His 20 passing touchdowns ranked 21st among quarterbacks and tied for last among passers who played a full regular season. ""

 

[TREFF]

This is what @FaCe-LeE-uS and I were trying to say last year with Conner and tomlin. But everyone kept telling us samuels was legit......... granted Conner got hurt. But that's been The M.O. look when Benny Snell got healthy......coaches have patterns that they stick too. I'm on board if that's been schurmers go of it as wel. They gave melvin some money! Do you believe that it's gonna be more
Melvin??

Well, true, but the difference being, Tomlin didn't bring in the top RB FA on the market, he had a mildly underperforming incumbent and a potential threat already in the team. Yes the theory if coaches sticking to thier roots is valid. Its also valid that thier roots go to hell if it means the team wins. Similarities exist, but not at all the same situation.

 

[SteelersPride]

Well, true, but the difference being, Tomlin didn't bring in the top RB FA on the market, he had a mildly underperforming incumbent and a potential threat already in the team. Yes the theory if coaches sticking to thier roots is valid. Its also valid that thier roots go to hell if it means the team wins. Similarities exist, but not at all the same situation.

but it still wasnt how tomlin operates, and the thread is not a rb, hes a receiver basically...but yeah i got yah

 

[TREFF]

but it still wasnt how tomlin operates, and the thread is not a rb, hes a receiver basically...but yeah i got yah

Right on...and in my defense, for my part of that debate, I pretty much thought he'd stick to his MO, but that the singular back he'd lean on the most was up for grabs, not that there would be a committee. I never really questioned too much that he'd stick to his standard plan as much as possible. Of course, when big Ben goes down, the whole thing goes to shit, regardless of intentions, so,... Lol

 

[SteelersPride]

Right on...and in my defense, for my part of that debate, I pretty much thought he'd stick to his MO, but that the singular back he'd lean on the most was up for grabs, not that there would be a committee. I never really questioned too much that he'd stick to his standard plan as much as possible. Of course, when big Ben goes down, the whole thing goes to shit, regardless of intentions, so,... Lol

yeah, losing ben f'd that whole offense, then conner went down and juju and it was painfully abysmal......Yeah you're right someone could of taken out james. Tomlin LOVES james. LOVES him from PITT. Has always loved him.........They have been in the same facility since before he drafted conner......I just didnt see anyway , anyone on that roster was taking him out.....

 

[Trudem]

Funchess in GB. that might work. Big body, enormous catch radius, should work well the Rodgers ad libbing. Maybe now they font HAVE to go WR in the 1st, and can get the best of what's left later.

I held my opinion until I saw the money. He’s on a massive prove it deal for less than 2.5 mill. Love it

 

[TREFF]

yeah, losing ben f'd that whole offense, then conner went down and juju and it was painfully abysmal......Yeah you're right someone could of taken out james. Tomlin LOVES james. LOVES him from PITT. Has always loved him.........They have been in the same facility since before he drafted conner......I just didnt see anyway , anyone on that roster was taking him out.....

Yeah your likely right, it was never gonna happen. Sometimes the hype just grabs ya.

 

[SteelersPride]

Yeah your likely right, it was never gonna happen. Sometimes the hype just grabs ya.

There's ppl in pittsburgh still calling for
Samuel, he has never been a true rb, ever, never. It's like Chris Thompson or riddick, never gonna tote that rock, not happening.

 

[TREFF]

"Buccaneers GM Jason Licht said, "The tape to us showed that he (Tom Brady) had plenty of arm."
Licht added, "We felt that he had the ideal arm for Bruce and his system. He can still throw it deep."

I sure don't know what tape they've been watching, but ever patriot game I've watched the past couple seasons shows multiple "flutter" balls on anything 25+ yards, and consistently having receivers stop in the routes and wait for the ball. YPA have also declined steadily for three years, with a paltry 6.6 yards last year, as have yards per completion, checking in at 10.6...both a full yard less than his career average. I call horsepucky on the Buc's GM

 

[averagejoe]

"Buccaneers GM Jason Licht said, "The tape to us showed that he (Tom Brady) had plenty of arm."
Licht added, "We felt that he had the ideal arm for Bruce and his system. He can still throw it deep."

I sure don't know what tape they've been watching, but ever patriot game I've watched the past couple seasons shows multiple "flutter" balls on anything 25+ yards, and consistently having receivers stop in the routes and wait for the ball. YPA have also declined steadily for three years, with a paltry 6.6 yards last year, as have yards per completion, checking in at 10.6...both a full yard less than his career average. I call horsepucky on the Buc's GM

Found it!

 

[TREFF]

Sammy Watkins obviously has compromising pictures if Andy Reid.

Unbelievable that not only they didn't just cut him, but they are still giving him 9 million! Ughh. Hardman's potential for '20 just took a big shit