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The more I listen and think about what the Eagles have done this off season ... the signs point to us moving up and taking either Wentz or Goff if at all possible. You don't fly your owner and most of the staff to interview prospects unless you are very serious about addressing that position. I think that while the Eagles have set themselves up at QB for the “immediate” future, they obviously don't see Bradford or Daniels as franchise QB's, but obviously want one. You can't predict what happens year to year, so they don't know when the next time is that you will be close enough to get that Franchise QB. They have addressed most of their immediate needs/holes through re-signing their own free agents or bringing others into the fold ... so even without a draft they are ready “now” to field a solid team. “If” the Eagles are convinced after the interviews/tape that either Wentz or Goff is their guy for the next 10-12 years I think they will make a serious run at them likely using future picks as well as #8. Reports have surfaced that Lurie is “in love” with Wentz which we have to take with a grain of salt as deception is key this time of year … but if true, the only way to get him would be at #1. A move like that would likely take the 8th pick, both 3rd rounders and their 1st rounder in 2017 … I don't see any way Wentz gets passed Cleveland at 2. Getting Goff imo would be a little easier as I think the only team we'd have to leapfrog is San Fran, but you never know if a team can trade up and take him as well. So if Goff is the guy they are targeting I think they have to move to 3 (Chargers) to get him. That would still probably have a price of our 1st in 2017, but maybe it wouldn't take both 3rd's.
If they are “not” convinced on either Wentz or Goff then the tune changes to either staying put at 8 or possibly trading down and reclaiming a 2nd round pick. The 3rd QB in the equation Paxton Lynch may come into play here one way or the other. The Eagles have spent considerable time with him as well and while he may be the greenest out of he, Wentz and Goff … he has all the physical tools you want with a tremendous arm. The fact that we have Bradford/Daniels for the immediate future means they could take their time with Lynch and have him simply learn 1 or even 2 years. Or if the Eagles want to trade down, there may be a few teams who would be interested in trading up for Lynch at that point. Saints (he can learn from an ancient Brees), Rams, Bills and Jets are all teams after us and in the top 20 who could use a QB. RB Zeke Elliot is the most talked about player if we stay put at 8 and is a player that I keep going back and forth on … not regarding his skill set at 8, but it's simply a position which you can fill later. If the Eagles are convinced that they can win “now” then I think there's a good shot he could be the pick. Especially considering that Ryan Mathews is so unreliable health-wise and Sproles is ancient in RB years.
Other players/positions at 8:
** Offensive Tackle
Stanley scares me a bit this high as he isn't great “all around”. While he has very good feet in pass protection, he's a very average run blocker and his “desire” for the game has been questioned. I think is you are a top 10 pick at OT you need to be really good in “both” the run and the pass. Jack Conklin is actually the better all around player imo and if the Eagles brass think that he translates well to “both” Tackle positions he may very well end up being the pick at 8. Unlike Stanley I think Conk can come right in and possibly beat out Wisniewski for that starting LG spot.
** Defensive Line
It “seems” like some teams have soured a bit on Joey Bosa atop the draft, but I'm not one of them. I saw a ton of Ohio State games the past 2 years and I have no doubt Bosa will be a force at the NFL level. If he somehow drops to 8 I will be on the edge of my seat hoping we call his name as our pick. Another guy I love is DeForest Buckner; while I don't see him dropping to 8, I can just imagine him next to Fletcher Cox getting after the QB; plus he can kick out to End in running situations. Either he or Bosa would be phenomenal value at 8. The other possible Dlineman at 8 could be Clemson DE Shaq Lawson whom I've been a big fan of for a while. I do think he's a step down from Bosa however and I'd rather see them trade down a bit for any DE not named Bosa. Guys like Noah Spence (who may be the best pass rusher in the draft) or Kevin Dodd may be just as good as Lawson at the next level. A'Shawn Robinson and Sheldon Rankins are two other DT's that merit “some” consideration, but Robinson, while great against the run doesn't offer as much as a pass rusher (which we need at Tackle in this scheme) and Rankins imo isn't enough of an upgrade, if any, from Bennie Logan … so I don't see either as considerations, at least not at 8.
** LB
Obviously if he falls to 8, Myles Jack would have to be a serious consideration. Stick him at SAM in this scheme and you are set … simple as that. The chances of him slipping to 8 however are very slim as it looks like the Jags are in love with him at 5.
** CB
If we are going CB in Rd 1 I think it will be via a trade down. While I like Hargreaves I can't get passed the 5'10” height. Plus the fact that Schwartz scheme calls for as much zone cover as man from the Corners and Hargraves isn't as good playing off man as he is at playing man. I think Mackensie Alexander whom most are mocking in the 20's is every bit as good a cover guy as Hargreaves, just without the Int's. Value wise I'd take Alexander all day in the late teens / early 20's over Hargreaves at 8. Other guys like Eli Apple and William Jackson who have better size can also be had in a trade down. Bottom line is that I don't expect us to go Corner unless we trade down.
** WR
No shot we go receiver at 8. We brought in Givens and Randle to compliment Agholor and Matthews. The only way I think we would have even considered receiver at 8 is if Treadwell would have pulled a 4.45 or better at his pro day which didn't happen. Even then I think it would have still been highly unlikely.
*** Gun to my head? I think we find a way to end up with the #1 pick and end up with Wentz. The Titans are playing the game and saying that it would take a king's ransom to get to #1, but they have a ton of needs and no one player will get them to the promised land. They already have their Franchise QB and can use as many picks possible to surround Mariota and that Defense with talent. Cleveland isn't going to give them their #1 pick next season to go up one spot and word is that Hue Jackson would be happy with either Wentz or Goff. The only other team the Eagles would be battling against for that #1 pick is ironically Chip and the Niners.
If they are “not” convinced on either Wentz or Goff then the tune changes to either staying put at 8 or possibly trading down and reclaiming a 2nd round pick. The 3rd QB in the equation Paxton Lynch may come into play here one way or the other. The Eagles have spent considerable time with him as well and while he may be the greenest out of he, Wentz and Goff … he has all the physical tools you want with a tremendous arm. The fact that we have Bradford/Daniels for the immediate future means they could take their time with Lynch and have him simply learn 1 or even 2 years. Or if the Eagles want to trade down, there may be a few teams who would be interested in trading up for Lynch at that point. Saints (he can learn from an ancient Brees), Rams, Bills and Jets are all teams after us and in the top 20 who could use a QB. RB Zeke Elliot is the most talked about player if we stay put at 8 and is a player that I keep going back and forth on … not regarding his skill set at 8, but it's simply a position which you can fill later. If the Eagles are convinced that they can win “now” then I think there's a good shot he could be the pick. Especially considering that Ryan Mathews is so unreliable health-wise and Sproles is ancient in RB years.
Other players/positions at 8:
** Offensive Tackle
Stanley scares me a bit this high as he isn't great “all around”. While he has very good feet in pass protection, he's a very average run blocker and his “desire” for the game has been questioned. I think is you are a top 10 pick at OT you need to be really good in “both” the run and the pass. Jack Conklin is actually the better all around player imo and if the Eagles brass think that he translates well to “both” Tackle positions he may very well end up being the pick at 8. Unlike Stanley I think Conk can come right in and possibly beat out Wisniewski for that starting LG spot.
** Defensive Line
It “seems” like some teams have soured a bit on Joey Bosa atop the draft, but I'm not one of them. I saw a ton of Ohio State games the past 2 years and I have no doubt Bosa will be a force at the NFL level. If he somehow drops to 8 I will be on the edge of my seat hoping we call his name as our pick. Another guy I love is DeForest Buckner; while I don't see him dropping to 8, I can just imagine him next to Fletcher Cox getting after the QB; plus he can kick out to End in running situations. Either he or Bosa would be phenomenal value at 8. The other possible Dlineman at 8 could be Clemson DE Shaq Lawson whom I've been a big fan of for a while. I do think he's a step down from Bosa however and I'd rather see them trade down a bit for any DE not named Bosa. Guys like Noah Spence (who may be the best pass rusher in the draft) or Kevin Dodd may be just as good as Lawson at the next level. A'Shawn Robinson and Sheldon Rankins are two other DT's that merit “some” consideration, but Robinson, while great against the run doesn't offer as much as a pass rusher (which we need at Tackle in this scheme) and Rankins imo isn't enough of an upgrade, if any, from Bennie Logan … so I don't see either as considerations, at least not at 8.
** LB
Obviously if he falls to 8, Myles Jack would have to be a serious consideration. Stick him at SAM in this scheme and you are set … simple as that. The chances of him slipping to 8 however are very slim as it looks like the Jags are in love with him at 5.
** CB
If we are going CB in Rd 1 I think it will be via a trade down. While I like Hargreaves I can't get passed the 5'10” height. Plus the fact that Schwartz scheme calls for as much zone cover as man from the Corners and Hargraves isn't as good playing off man as he is at playing man. I think Mackensie Alexander whom most are mocking in the 20's is every bit as good a cover guy as Hargreaves, just without the Int's. Value wise I'd take Alexander all day in the late teens / early 20's over Hargreaves at 8. Other guys like Eli Apple and William Jackson who have better size can also be had in a trade down. Bottom line is that I don't expect us to go Corner unless we trade down.
** WR
No shot we go receiver at 8. We brought in Givens and Randle to compliment Agholor and Matthews. The only way I think we would have even considered receiver at 8 is if Treadwell would have pulled a 4.45 or better at his pro day which didn't happen. Even then I think it would have still been highly unlikely.
*** Gun to my head? I think we find a way to end up with the #1 pick and end up with Wentz. The Titans are playing the game and saying that it would take a king's ransom to get to #1, but they have a ton of needs and no one player will get them to the promised land. They already have their Franchise QB and can use as many picks possible to surround Mariota and that Defense with talent. Cleveland isn't going to give them their #1 pick next season to go up one spot and word is that Hue Jackson would be happy with either Wentz or Goff. The only other team the Eagles would be battling against for that #1 pick is ironically Chip and the Niners.
