Durant Signing With Warriors

[lebron23james]

Good lord. I now understand why the guy who gave the finger to his hometown team is now their hero. They are delusional.

Facts are never delusional, bulls won 55 games that 1 season without jordan...as for after the 3rd 3 peat, they probably blew up their team after that....but i don't care enough to look

 

[lebron23james]

Holy shit if that is true it makes Dirks 2011 championship that much crazier. Lebron had his best supporting cast ever.

Yeah, that was his 1 choke...he has only lost 1 series when he had the better rated team and that was to dallas

 

[boogiewithstu2007]

Kerr cracked me up with his first comments..

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Yeah, that was his 1 choke...he has only lost 1 series when he had the better rated team and that was to dallas

That tells me he needs to handpick his team's more efficiently, instead of stacking his team with stars and then filling the roster with veteran minimum'stay and mid level exemptions.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Facts are never delusional, bulls won 55 games that 1 season without jordan...as for after the 3rd 3 peat, they probably blew up their team after that....but i don't care enough to look

Your article put his best teams as 96,97 and 98.

And the team you who finished with 55 wins after Jordan retired, added Bill Wennington, Luc Longley, Steve Kerr and Toni Kukoc.

 

[Rockinkuwait]

Your article put his best teams as 96,97 and 98.

And the team you who finished with 55 wins after Jordan retired, added Bill Wennington, Luc Longley, Steve Kerr and Toni Kukoc.

Those are some amazing HOF level franchise changers right there. When you talk about Bulls after Jordan's 6 rings, you are talking about them still having Pippen, Rodman, Phil Jackson etc... right? You know the guys that actually were a key part of the great bulls teams?


You wouldn't be trying to slip that part by that people like Pippen, Rodman and Jackson aren't even worth mentioning, but we have to talk about the addition of Bill Wennington as key..

 

[Rockinkuwait]

with a 3 year break to "play baseball" (i'm convinced it is for gambling still).

That's a bit tough to buy..

So instead of secretly fine Jordan or secretly punish him in other ways, they decide that the best way to deal with this is to kick the most popular player out of the game for 147 games (odd number to choose).

Then when he comes back, the league puts the Bulls first pre-season camp instead of in Chicago like every year, they put them in Las Vegas.

Then when Jordan continues to gamble in his return after being suspended for that exact action supposedly, they decide he doesn't need any further punishment..

Then as he continues to gamble, they allow Jordan to become a part-owner and team president.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Those are some amazing HOF level franchise changers right there. When you talk about Bulls after Jordan's 6 rings, you are talking about them still having Pippen, Rodman, Phil Jackson etc... right? You know the guys that actually were a key part of the great bulls teams?


You wouldn't be trying to slip that part by that people like Pippen, Rodman and Jackson aren't even worth mentioning, but we have to talk about the addition of Bill Wennington as key..

At least keep up with the conversation if you are going to respond. The 4 I mentioned were added to the team after Jordan retired in 93. Rodman was not part of that team. Pippen was, but that is obvious. Phil Jackson was, but last I checked, he didn't take the court that year.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

That's a bit tough to buy..

So instead of secretly fine Jordan or secretly punish him in other ways, they decide that the best way to deal with this is to kick the most popular player out of the game for 147 games (odd number to choose).

Then when he comes back, the league puts the Bulls first pre-season camp instead of in Chicago like every year, they put them in Las Vegas.

Then when Jordan continues to gamble in his return after being suspended for that exact action supposedly, they decide he doesn't need any further punishment..

Then as he continues to gamble, they allow Jordan to become a part-owner and team president.

I think it was for gambling on basketball. NBA players live in Vegas basically, so if it were for just gambling in general, the league would be bare.

It just my belief because it made no sense to retire at 30, with 3 straight NBA titles and 7 straight scoring titles, and every other accolade (1st team NBA, 1st team all-defense, MVP's, etc) to try and play baseball.

I'm definitely not saying it is a fact -- just that it seems his "retirement" was more forced than anything else, based on the timing

 

[Rockinkuwait]

At least keep up with the conversation if you are going to respond. The 4 I mentioned were added to the team after Jordan retired in 93. Rodman was not part of that team. Pippen was, but that is obvious. Phil Jackson was, but last I checked, he didn't take the court that year.

Keep up kid... look at your own posts on the past couple pages...



"I wanted to get a look at how the supporting cast fared when Jordan left the Bulls for good after the 3peat from 96-98 since he had the greatest supporting cast in the history of the NBA.
From 1999-2001 -- the first 3 years after Jordan retired for good from Chicago. They won 45 games. Not 45 games per season. 45 GAMES total in three years."

"And the team you who finished with 55 wins after Jordan retired, added Bill Wennington, Luc Longley, Steve Kerr and Toni Kukoc."






You brought up two parts..

1. The 55 win team after Jordan's first retirement added guys like Wennington and Longley who were big enough impact players to be called out as a reason they were only 2 games off the previous year.

2. When you mention the complete lack of success of the Bulls "supporting cast" after Jordans 2nd retirement, you completely ignore the roster changes around the rest of the team (no Pippen, No Rodman, No Phil Jackson, hurt Ron Harper, etc). Aren't those pretty key to what made the 96-98 supporting cast so good?


How is Bill Wennington a needed proven addition to you but Scottie Pippen not even worth mentioning as a departure in your next post??? Only way I can see is you want to bend your information to support your conclusion you want to get. You want to throw the logic out the window to get the result for the debate you'd rather see based on your personal desires and not facts.

When you have to bend the facts like that, or hide major things like that, it kind of ruins any point you are trying to make to me.

 

[Rockinkuwait]

I think it was for gambling on basketball. NBA players live in Vegas basically, so if it were for just gambling in general, the league would be bare.

It just my belief because it made no sense to retire at 30, with 3 straight NBA titles and 7 straight scoring titles, and every other accolade (1st team NBA, 1st team all-defense, MVP's, etc) to try and play baseball.

I'm definitely not saying it is a fact -- just that it seems his "retirement" was more forced than anything else, based on the timing

But then you let him keep getting seen out late at the casino's betting? Seems like the worst possible punishment they could have given him (the only one which ends his financially positive impact on the league), and as soon as he returns, they don't care that he's out gambling again.

Plus, the NBA can't keep squat secret. Now they've got investigators, informants, players, all sorts of people that need to keep quiet and somehow do for 20+ years.

And I think the reasons you mention are why he retired.. He'd won every other accolade. He'd won his 3 straight championships. He'd done it all. Kinda reminds me of Jim Browns early retirement where once he dominated he stepped away for something else he wanted to do. (and he talked quite a bit about trying a comeback later).

It's just tough to buy the NBA's logic for that and how they acted after, and the ability to keep it 100% bottled up.

 

[lebron23james]

Keep up kid... look at your own posts on the past couple pages...


You brought up two parts..

1. The 55 win team after Jordan's first retirement added guys like Wennington and Longley who were big enough impact players to be called out as a reason they were only 2 games off the previous year.

2. When you mention the complete lack of success of the Bulls "supporting cast" after Jordans 2nd retirement, you completely ignore the roster changes around the rest of the team (no Pippen, No Rodman, No Phil Jackson, hurt Ron Harper, etc). Aren't those pretty key to what made the 96-98 supporting cast so good?


How is Bill Wennington a needed proven addition to you but Scottie Pippen not even worth mentioning as a departure in your next post??? Only way I can see is you want to bend your information to support your conclusion you want to get. You want to throw the logic out the window to get the result for the debate you'd rather see based on your personal desires and not facts.

When you have to bend the facts like that, or hide major things like that, it kind of ruins any point you are trying to make to me.

He has been doing this whole time now, try's to bend the facts when they don't fit...First sign of someone who has lost an argument...

 

[Battlelyon]

Your rep is doing real good, KD

 

[Bulletz]

Your rep is doing real good, KD

Geesh. I had heard 120$

 

[lebron23james]

Your rep is doing real good, KD

What a douche

 

[Ojb81]

Your rep is doing real good, KD

I dont have a problem with his comment, its business. He wants to make sure that the value of his "brand" stays elite.

 

[CodeBreaker]

HAPPY KIDS

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Kerr cracked me up with his first comments..

Warriors GM came twice.

It's just the rich getting richer, the Warriors have a handful of guys who can take over games on the offensive side as well as guard multiple positions on the defensive end. Now they've added another guy who can do that, and hey, he's a top 5 player.

 

[CodeBreaker]

Warriors GM came twice.

It's just the rich getting richer, the Warriors have a handful of guys who can take over games on the offensive side as well as guard multiple positions on the defensive end. Now they've added another guy who can do that, and hey, he's a top 5 player.

Top 3*

 

[lebron23james]

The rich is the team that won the championship