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I hope we can do better than this at 16 and 49. Cant argue with the rest. I know Azeez is a beast but we just spent a crapload of money on Romeo.

You can never have enough Pass Rushers.
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I hope we can do better than this at 16 and 49. Cant argue with the rest. I know Azeez is a beast but we just spent a crapload of money on Romeo.

I doubt Dyami Brown is going that high but do Not discount him as a possible WR1 by year 3 if he ends up with the right team (QB, OL, other WR and OC).

He will end up being that surprise to many.
He's a damn good route runner, physical at releasing from DB, great at the catch point, very good hands and great at contested catches. He has a 2nd gear and at times a 3rd gear.
 

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I hope we can do better than this at 16 and 49. Cant argue with the rest. I know Azeez is a beast but we just spent a crapload of money on Romeo.

Should Flowers not pan out in this different scheme he'd cost 12.85M to cut in 2022 and a savings of 10.4M

If and a huge if, drafting Ojulari and getting his feet wet little by little first half of the year wouldn't be a bad thing by any stretch.

and If Okwara performance this past year was a flash in the pan then his ass could be cut in 2023 for 7M/7M dead money and cap savings.

We've seen his play great for him in 2018 and then play like shit in 2019 only to up his stat performance in play in 2020.
 

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Few minutes ago. It is bad for the Lions, needing to leap the Panthers for a qb was our best bet to complete a trade back.

yep. you're correct on all levels.
 

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Dyami Brown recorded eight touchdowns of 40-plus yards during his career, and earned his way into the end zone every 5.3 receptions.
He does have some drop issues though too. For me it is either Waddle in the first or Moore in the second. Brown could become a star when he gets to te next level but I want a guy that cant miss.
 

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He does have some drop issues though too. For me it is either Waddle in the first or Moore in the second. Brown could become a star when he gets to te next level but I want a guy that cant miss.

none are can't miss until you see it on the NFL Level for at least 3 years. but that's me.

Elijah Moore and Rondale Moore both have other issues to be concerned with.

I personally wouldn't draft Dyami until pick No.72 and the same goes for either Moore and even Eskridge.

Read the PFF article regarding Elijah Moore - not that it's the Be all, End all but they make excellent points.

I'm going to go back and watch the shortened version of the Bamma/Ole Miss game to see how/where E. Moore aligns just to check their analysis.
 

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I hope we can do better than this at 16 and 49. Cant argue with the rest. I know Azeez is a beast but we just spent a crapload of money on Romeo.

You can never have enough Pass Rushers.
Never.

Should Flowers not pan out in this different scheme he'd cost 12.85M to cut in 2022 and a savings of 10.4M

If and a huge if, drafting Ojulari and getting his feet wet little by little first half of the year wouldn't be a bad thing by any stretch.

and If Okwara performance this past year was a flash in the pan then his ass could be cut in 2023 for 7M/7M dead money and cap savings.

We've seen his play great for him in 2018 and then play like shit in 2019 only to up his stat performance in play in 2020.

Just so I make myself clear on these topics/posts, I want nothing more than to see Flowers and Okwara shine in this new scheme and hope they outplay their contracts, but it's still a wait and see what happens on the field.

You never know what comes about with players and new schemes and the players around them that could boost or even hurt Flowers and Okwara's play.
 

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none are can't miss until you see it on the NFL Level for at least 3 years. but that's me.

Elijah Moore and Rondale Moore both have other issues to be concerned with.

I personally wouldn't draft Dyami until pick No.72 and the same goes for either Moore and even Eskridge.

Read the PFF article regarding Elijah Moore - not that it's the Be all, End all but they make excellent points.

I'm going to go back and watch the shortened version of the Bamma/Ole Miss game to see how/where E. Moore aligns just to check their analysis.

They are not Waddle ( I saw one video where he made 2 defenders run into each other ala Barry) but they would be adequate after the first round. I prefer Elijah to Rondale. Rondale I would not even take in round 2 to be honest and would rather go with Dyami in round 3 if he lasts (he wont though). I think most analysts have Rondale way too high.
 

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They are not Waddle

agreed.
He's on an entirely different planet compared to any of the other Slot WR in this draft, imo.
I'm completely all in on Waddle so long as Chase isn't still available at No. 7.

watch how Waddle gets skinny on that 1st catch and then climbs the ladder for the 2nd. He'll face taller CB in the NFL but still. The bottom video

 

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this is just nasty footwork by DeVonta
and an ooops by the CB

 

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one of a baker's dozen coming between now and the 29th. It seems a tad early for Werner but what do I know. nada.

Lions mock draft watch: PFN hands out a 3-round mock for Detroit (usatoday.com)

1st round- Kyle Pitts, TE, Florida

2nd round- Pete Werner, LB, Ohio State

3rd round (1st)- Dyami Brown, WR, North Carolina

3rd round (2nd)- Tyree Gillespie, S, Missouri

Some of the options available for the Lions for this first third-round selection in this particular mock draft were Oregon CB/S Jevon Holland, Michigan OT Jalen Mayfield, and Louisana Tech DT Milton Williams, all of whom could compete for starting roles with how the current roster is set up.
 

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Alabama Crimson Tide draft prospect Dylan Moses says he played most of football season with torn MCL, had surgery Feb. 9 (espn.com)

TUSCALOOSA, Ala. -- Alabama linebacker Dylan Moses says he played most of the college football season with a torn meniscus.

Moses said on Monday, a day before the Crimson Tide's second pro day workouts for NFL teams, that he had knee surgery on Feb. 9. The injury was diagnosed after Alabama's national championship game win over Ohio State.

Moses, who didn't specify which knee was hurt, led Alabama with 80 tackles and started all 13 games.

He said the injury occurred in the third game of the season, which would have been his 13-tackle performance against Mississippi.

"That's when I really started feeling it," said Moses, who missed the 2019 season with a knee injury. "It was said it was a bone bruise, but it kept bothering me throughout the year and I just never really spoke up about it.

BB_72: The recent injury doesn't answer the question why he looked so bad right off the jump in game 1 last year. He seemed tentative then and throughout the season. I don't think he was fully healed from that 2019 ACL just yet and then add on the meniscus.

I still wouldn't draft him.
 

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4. T WALKER LITTLE, STANFORD

Biggest pro: Mirror ability​

Little's short shuttle (4.58) and three-cone (7.43) at his pro day came as absolutely no surprise to anybody who has studied his tape. Those two marks sit in the 82nd and 89th percentile, respectively, among past tackle prospects.

His agility and mirror are precisely what teams want at offensive tackle. The only question is, will his physical traits be enough for teams to overlook his lack of playing time and trust the small stretch of quality play in his collegiate career?

Biggest con: Not playing for two years​

There isn’t a more boom-or-bust prospect in this class than Walker Little. Once a highly coveted five-star recruit back in 2017, he has made only 19 starts since, with only one coming over the last two years. He suffered a season-ending injury in Stanford’s 2019 opener and decided to opt out of the 2020 season and focus on the 2021 NFL Draft.

Little did look like he was on the path to stardom before that. Over his final seven college games — one in 2019 and six in 2018 — he earned a 93.3 pass-block grade and allowed pressure on just 0.4% of his pass-blocking snaps.

Things would be different if that stretch were twice as long and more recent, but the fact that he has just one game under his belt in over two and a half years will give teams pause when considering him in Round 1.
 

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two different takes on Walker Little. for some it'll be TLDR

13. Walker Little (Stanford) | 6'7/320

Comp: Luke Joeckel


The former top-10 overall recruit is the 2021 NFL Draft’s mystery man at tackle. Life comes at you fast (as if we needed to tell Foster Sarrell, Little's teammate and fellow top-10 overall recruit in 2017; Sarrell is ranked below, so low he's been deprived the respect of a write-up Little is about to receive).

Little retains his ideal frame and smooth technical prowess, two components that made him one of the country’s most sought-after recruits just a few years ago. But we haven’t seen Little since the 2019 season opener, when he suffered a season-ending knee injury. Little then decided to opt-out in 2020.



Little struggled with speed in the pass game and a lack of power in the run game earlier in his career, when high-end Pac-12 edge rushers circled on their calendar the opportunity to embarrass one of the most-hyped offensive linemen in Pac-12 history. Little is going to need to clean up his deficiencies, because his long frame and lack of drive power aren’t going to work inside at guard. He's a high-octane risk-reward proposition that could develop into a high-end starter or be escorted out of the league quickly.
 
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