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Maybe skinsdad and I should be agents then? They signed here for money and got duped by Rivera. Nobody liked then organization dean...Snyder was still running it and under investigation by the feds. Stop being ignorant. Money talks.

There you go again defending Rivera.
Was Rivera a mistake Dean? Yes or no?

Why did it take you 3 and half years to come to a conclusion?

sure you look at it now it's a mistake. Couldn't solve the qb problem and the defense was bad this year. Then we trade Young. They would have gotten the money elsewhere.
 

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And who helped make that team a mess Dean?

These players made mistakes. You were told that but refused to listen. You have been on the Rivera bandwagon since he was hired.

We still don't know what the qb answer is after 4 years.

Right the players made the mistakes by signing long term.
 

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sure you look at it now it's a mistake. Couldn't solve the qb problem and the defense was bad this year. Then we trade Young. They would have gotten the money elsewhere.
I said it was a mistake at the time they signed!!!!

I also said hiring Rivera at the time he was signed was a mistake.
I said trading for Wentz was a mistake.

Did I not? For the record, others did as well but you were too excited to notice.
 

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I said it was a mistake at the time they signed!!!!

I also said hiring Rivera at the time he was signed was a mistake.
I said trading for Wentz was a mistake.

Did I not? For the record, others did as well but you were too excited to notice.

im not disputing that. Then why did the players sign here long term?
 

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Right the players made the mistakes by signing long term.
Correct...and it's sad.

We need to be an organization where players want to sign and contribute...not sign and regret it.

Why they signed with Rivera in control is beyond me.
 

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im not disputing that. Then why did the players sign here long term?
Money!!!!!

Maybe their families like it here? You can't say they liked the culture or organization because it was toxic and involved in scandal. We had the worst owner in the game.

Rivera is a players coach but he is not a good overall coach...he never has been.

They were duped into signing here and I feel bad for them because they have wasted part of their careers here. I like all 3 of them and wish them the best.
 

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Money!!!!!

Maybe their families like it here? You can't say they liked the culture or organization because it was toxic and involved in scandal. We had the worst owner in the game.

Rivera is a players coach but he is not a good overall coach...he never has been.

They were duped into signing here and I feel bad for them because they have wasted part of their careers here. I like all 3 of them and wish them the best.

they would have gotten the money elsewhere. Especially Payne. They knew the culture, scandals, and disfunction. They knew about RR, Synder, and JDR. There was no surprise. If they didnt like those guys or the culture they would have hit FA. How were they duped? They knew what they got into. They signed the long-term deal.
 

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they wanted to sign here not their agents.. At the time they liked RR and the organization. They weren't forced to sign here. Plus the QB question wasn't answered and they still signed long term here.
excuses we saw it right away and they should have as well
 

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they would have gotten the money elsewhere. Especially Payne. They knew the culture, scandals, and disfunction. They knew about RR, Synder, and JDR. There was no surprise. If they didnt like those guys or the culture they would have hit FA. How were they duped? They knew what they got into. They signed the long-term deal.
You don't know that they could have gotten more money elsewhere. Maybe they could have...we dont know that. Maybe their agents told them they would not. You are assuming again.

What are you driving at? If it wasn't money or the organization didn't bother them, why did they resign here then? According to your logic, there is no reason they should have signed here.

I believe Rivera made promises of an improved culture, team, and outlook. Rivera is a players coach...we know that. I believe he sold these players on a future that was never going to happen.

You tell me, why did they sign here?
 

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this is coaching and acquisition issues
 

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i mean WTF
 
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