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Does anybody have Kiper and Mcshay's draft grades?

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That's it. He's like Jaylon Smith from the Cowboys, if he ends up being able play long term he's a great pick, if not, he's a wasted pick. He would have gone top 3 if not for Medical, which means there were 13-14 straight NFL teams that thought the shoulder was a major risk, and likely more than that, as no one tried to trade for him when he fell out of the top 10

If you have that medical, screw up a drug test and get kicked out of the combine (and uninvited to the draft), you almost fall to the 2nd round.
 

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If you have that medical, screw up a drug test and get kicked out of the combine (and uninvited to the draft), you almost fall to the 2nd round.

To which I say, thanks!
 

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Do you have any clue why I asked DPet about depth?
If not I suggest you read some of his great insight posts from last season.

actually my depth post from last season were true. We lost Reed and Doctson last season and KC still set a record for passing yards. We missed the playoffs by a game.
 

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He gave the Rams the worst score, a C-, which means we had a good draft.

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actually my depth post from last season were true. We lost Reed and Doctson last season and KC still set a record for passing yards. We missed the playoffs by a game.
Your depth made you the NFCE favorites and SB contender per you.
Your a fool, even in the Skins board.
 

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Your depth made you the NFCE favorites and SB contender per you.
Your a fool, even in the Skins board.

Never said SB contender. No fool. Know one could of predicted Dak achievements. My point was right about depth. Davis and Crowder stepped up when key guys went down. You are the fool to even bring this up
 

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Never said SB contender. No fool. Know one could of predicted Dak achievements. My point was right about depth. Davis and Crowder stepped up when key guys went down. You are the fool to even bring this up
Blah blah blah. You had more depth at WR, DL, LB, QB, TE, DB, a couple of injuries and Dak shouldn't hace made a difference. Damn fool you are.
 

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Blah blah blah. You had more depth at WR, DL, LB, QB, TE, DB, a couple of injuries and Dak shouldn't hace made a difference. Damn fool you are.

dude you need help. dont message me.
 

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To get them you have to subscribe to ESPN Insider and there is no way I am paying money to read what ESPN personnel have to say.

I thought you were an insider b/c you posted the Rams. wrong guy. one guy posted the Rams.
 

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I think espn has a show tonight explain the grades.
 

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If you have that medical, screw up a drug test and get kicked out of the combine (and uninvited to the draft), you almost fall to the 2nd round.
foster has the talent that's for sure maybe he was having a bad week at the combine but he enters the NFL in the program and it wont take long to find out if he was worth the risk

Dallas has been there done that and I hope is done with the MJ risk until the NFL changes the policy

With that I wish Foster well
 

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That's it. He's like Jaylon Smith from the Cowboys, if he ends up being able play long term he's a great pick, if not, he's a wasted pick. He would have gone top 3 if not for Medical, which means there were 13-14 straight NFL teams that thought the shoulder was a major risk, and likely more than that, as no one tried to trade for him when he fell out of the top 10


I appreciate your comparison, but this is quite a bit different than the Jaylon Smith pick. When the Cowboys picked Smith they knew that he was not going to play the entire 2016 season & had some major concerns. Allen is ready to go now and does not have as near serious issues.

IMO - sure some of this is related to some concerns about Allen (real or imagined). However - I think that the bigger reason was the run on QBs and WRs. Teams that are lacking in these areas just get carried away & ignore other players who may turn out to be much better in the long run.

I think that all of the teams in the NFC-E should be very good this season.
 

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BTW Dean - why should you or anyone give a shit about the ESPN draft grades? Really not a lot better than the opinions of anyone on this forum or loads of other web sites that can provide that info for free.
 

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I appreciate your comparison, but this is quite a bit different than the Jaylon Smith pick. When the Cowboys picked Smith they knew that he was not going to play the entire 2016 season & had some major concerns. Allen is ready to go now and does not have as near serious issues.

IMO - sure some of this is related to some concerns about Allen (real or imagined). However - I think that the bigger reason was the run on QBs and WRs. Teams that are lacking in these areas just get carried away & ignore other players who may turn out to be much better in the long run.

I think that all of the teams in the NFC-E should be very good this season.
At least a dozen NFL teams that passed on him from #3 on disagree with ya
 
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