Dodgers Add Latos, Morse, Draft Pick

[Villain]

Dodgers can always chase him this winter if need be (if Greinke goes elsewhere).

Exactly. It'd be nice to have him for a playoff run this year, but not at the cost paid by the Blue Jays.

 

[shopson67]

Looks like the trade is now finalized, with Bronson Arroyo added (going to the Dodgers) as a salary dump. He's been on the DL since last June.

 

[SJ20]

No Hamels, No Price and a suspect offense equals yet another season with no World Championship. Latos sucks, Wood sucks and Avilan sucks.

 

[Villain]

No Hamels, No Price and a suspect offense equals yet another season with no World Championship. Latos sucks, Wood sucks and Avilan sucks.

You're probably fun at parties.

 

[duke1861]

Exactly. It'd be nice to have him for a playoff run this year, but not at the cost paid by the Blue Jays.

Villain, have you heard of any other moves? You have to think the FO isn't done given the fact that we have acquired so many players. Another relief pitcher would be great. Maybe Benoit if the price is right?

I can't believe that the Jays gave up that much for Price. He won't re-sign there so they look foolish.

 

[Villain]

Villain, have you heard of any other moves? You have to think the FO isn't done given the fact that we have acquired so many players. Another relief pitcher would be great. Maybe Benoit if the price is right?

I can't believe that the Jays gave up that much for Price. He won't re-sign there so they look foolish.

Well, nothing has been heard, but logic points to something happening. We don't need Benoit, Jim Johnson is awesome (not that Benoit hurts).

But, look at this:

As it appears right now, they're adding six people to the 40-Man Roster - Arroyo, Latos, Wood, Morse, Johnson, Avila. They're subtracting one (Paco already on 60-Day DL).

Arroyo is still rehabing, so he goes on 60-Day DL and doesn't matter. That's still 5 moves that need to get made. Morse probably gets DFA'd or traded immediately. So he's gone. That's 4 left. Chris Hatcher to 60-Day DL? 3 left. Andy Wilkins DFA? 2 left. Rondald Torreyes DFA? 1 left. Those moves are obvious. IMHO, this last spot is where another trade might come into play. Maybe something exciting like trading Alex Guerrero or something boring like trading Chris Heisey, Daniel Couloumbe, or someone like that?

The 25-Man Roster moves are going to be interesting, too. Lee and Bolsinger surely go to AAA. For the bullpen, Garcia and Baez optioned to AAA? It'd be a temporary move for them until they can come back up in September. W

 

[SJ20]

You're probably fun at parties.

Just telling it as it is.

 

[SJ20]

Why does this organization get a pass when it hasn't won anything since 1988? The Gnats are running circles around us. Yes, it was time for Colletti and Co to go but I'm not sure the new guys know how to run a team that HAS the financial resources available. This isn't Tampa Bay, it's Los Angeles. We still have Donnie Ballbags attempting to manage and that is never good. He should have went with Flanders. And now the Puig is acting up and the team can't stand him. This team still has room for a lot of improvement. Latos is an injury-prone bum. Wood is unproven. Not the move that was going to decide anything.

 

[Villain]

How are they NOT using their financial might? The Dodgers are absorbing 40-50 million bucks to add 4 MLB players while not giving up any blue chip prospects. The Dodgers actually IMPROVED the farm in this trade by adding Jose Peraza.

 

[SJ20]

How are they NOT using their financial might? The Dodgers are absorbing 40-50 million bucks to add 4 MLB players while not giving up any blue chip prospects. The Dodgers actually IMPROVED the farm in this trade by adding Jose Peraza.

None of those players will have that much of an impact. I don't care about the minor league system, I want to win now. It's been long enough already. The Dodgers should have traded for Hamels or Price. It would offset the potential loss of Greinke.

 

[Villain]

None of those players will have that much of an impact. I don't care about the minor league system, I want to win now. It's been long enough already. The Dodgers should have traded for Hamels or Price. It would offset the potential loss of Greinke.

Trading for Hamels or Price doesn't guarantee a Championship either.

Also, you seem to be forgetting that the Dodgers have more money than anyone else. The Dodgers can sign any free agent pitcher they want this winter. The class of possibly available pitchers is awesome, too. Price, Cueto, Fister, Zimmermann, Grienke...

Adding Hamels, Price, Kazmir, or Cueto would've been better than either Latos or Wood. That's absolutely right. But not at cost those teams were asking for. No thank you.

Latos and Wood are still good pitchers. They're not exactly chumps. Also, Jim Johnson is a lights-out reliever. I don't know why no one seems excited for him to be on the team.

 

[SJ20]

No, landing Hamels or Price would not guarantee a championship. I figured the team would have gotten one or the other and a lesser guy. Not happy about Latos at all. Another injured starter. Johnson used to be really good and seems to be solid this season. He kind of fell off the map for a few seasons and that could be why many aren't as excited about it.
I'm still concerned about the offense. Not sure what can be done or who to get. Seems like the team scores a lot of runs or hardly any. This regime is only in year 1 but I still think we have a team to win right now and I want to see this team win this October. Who know what the future holds? Having money is great. Using it wisely is even better.

None of those players will have that much of an impact. I don't care about the minor league system, I want to win now. It's been long enough already. The Dodgers should have traded for Hamels or Price. It would offset the potential loss of Greinke.

Trading for Hamels or Price doesn't guarantee a Championship either.

Also, you seem to be forgetting that the Dodgers have more money than anyone else. The Dodgers can sign any free agent pitcher they want this winter. The class of possibly available pitchers is awesome, too. Price, Cueto, Fister, Zimmermann, Grienke...

Adding Hamels, Price, Kazmir, or Cueto would've been better than either Latos or Wood. That's absolutely right. But not at cost those teams were asking for. No thank you.

Latos and Wood are still good pitchers. They're not exactly chumps. Also, Jim Johnson is a lights-out reliever. I don't know why no one seems excited for him to be on the team.

 

[Villain]

Using it wisely is even better? That's exactly what they're doing. The only spent money that's gone to waste has been Brandon McCarthy.

I can tell you're obviously one of the pessimistic brands of fans out there, but believe it or not, including all the slumps and ups and downs that every player has had, the Dodgers still have one of the best offenses in the National League. The Dodgers have the most home runs and the best walk rate of any team in the NL.

 

[Villain]

As it appears right now, they're adding six people to the 40-Man Roster - Arroyo, Latos, Wood, Morse, Johnson, Avila. They're subtracting one (Paco already on 60-Day DL).

There you go. Dodgers should be able to hold onto Beachy after he clears waivers.

 

[Villain]

Dodgers should be able to hold onto Beachy after he clears waivers.

I just read that's not true. Beachy has enough service time to decline an assignment and become a free agent.

 

[SJ20]

Using it wisely is even better? That's exactly what they're doing. The only spent money that's gone to waste has been Brandon McCarthy.

I can tell you're obviously one of the pessimistic brands of fans out there, but believe it or not, including all the slumps and ups and downs that every player has had, the Dodgers still have one of the best offenses in the National League. The Dodgers have the most home runs and the best walk rate of any team in the NL.

Actually, I like McCarthy, just not at that price.

Not true at all on the pessimism. Just a long suffering Dodgers fan who can't believe a once proud franchise hasn't won it all since 1988. Chicks did the long ball. I don't want a bunch of homers in one game only to go to a place like San Francisco and get shutout for the entire 3 game series. Home runs and walk rates aside, the Dodgers are barely holding onto the division lead. And the Gnats just got Mike Leake who is better than injury-prone Latos. Maybe the Latos of a few years ago was OK, but not now. The Dodgers are taking on a lot of salary with these contracts yet it seems like none of these guys will be a real difference maker.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Actually, I like McCarthy, just not at that price.

Not true at all on the pessimism. Just a long suffering Dodgers fan who can't believe a once proud franchise hasn't won it all since 1988. Chicks did the long ball. I don't want a bunch of homers in one game only to go to a place like San Francisco and get shutout for the entire 3 game series. Home runs and walk rates aside, the Dodgers are barely holding onto the division lead. And the Gnats just got Mike Leake who is better than injury-prone Latos. Maybe the Latos of a few years ago was OK, but not now. The Dodgers are taking on a lot of salary with these contracts yet it seems like none of these guys will be a real difference maker.

Alex Wood will be in the rotation for years to come, Jim Johnson and Jose Avilan are solid additions to the bullpen. The Dodgers took on the contracts of Morse, Arroyo and Latos who will all either be free agents or bought out by the end of the season. The Dodgers have plenty of money, paying a little bit in order to acquire premium young talent like Wood and Peraza. They're using their money exactly as they should. Executives around the league are most likely praising the trade.

 

[shopson67]

Actually, I like McCarthy, just not at that price.

Not true at all on the pessimism. Just a long suffering Dodgers fan who can't believe a once proud franchise hasn't won it all since 1988. Chicks did the long ball. I don't want a bunch of homers in one game only to go to a place like San Francisco and get shutout for the entire 3 game series. Home runs and walk rates aside, the Dodgers are barely holding onto the division lead. And the Gnats just got Mike Leake who is better than injury-prone Latos. Maybe the Latos of a few years ago was OK, but not now. The Dodgers are taking on a lot of salary with these contracts yet it seems like none of these guys will be a real difference maker.

Take a look at Latos' stats since he came back from the DL in June:

7 starts, 2.98 ERA (1.80 in July), 43/19 K/BB, only 1 start with more than 3 runs allowed (5 vs StL). The main difference between Leake and Latos the past two months has been run support.

Wood's ratio stats aren't that far removed from Price's either. Add in the cost advantage (salary and cost in prospects in trade), not to mention years of control, and the Dodgers did very well.

That doesn't even include the needed bolstering of the bullpen and getting the Braves' top prospect in the deal. What did the Dodgers actually give up? 3 single A arms that aren't highly ranked, injured Paco, and Oliveras? That's a trade every GM would love to be able to afford. The only real negative is the wasted $$$, but the Dodgers' TV deal renders that almost moot.

 

[Villain]

What do you care about the price tag for McCarthy? He was super cheap. About $12M/year is practically nothing to the Dodgers.

 

[SJ20]

Alex Wood will be in the rotation for years to come, Jim Johnson and Jose Avilan are solid additions to the bullpen. The Dodgers took on the contracts of Morse, Arroyo and Latos who will all either be free agents or bought out by the end of the season. The Dodgers have plenty of money, paying a little bit in order to acquire premium young talent like Wood and Peraza. They're using their money exactly as they should. Executives around the league are most likely praising the trade.

I'm more concerned about the now. This team is built to win now and these moves really don't do enough for the now.