Do we have a CBA strife thread yet?

[mattola]

Sports law expert explains what a ‘disclaimer of interest’ is – Orlando Magic BasketBlog – Orlando Sentinel

The disclaimer of interest is a less formal process that is initiated by the union itself, and it is a statement that the union no longer wishes to represent the players as their collective-bargaining representative. So it is, in essence, the union walking away from the players.

Decertification requires a formal petition to the National Labor Relations Board and then a formal vote in front of the NLRB where 50 percent of the players have to choose to no longer be represented by the union. So decertification, in essence, is the players walking away from the union.

So there are formal distinctions between the two processes. Decertification is a more formal process that takes longer. The disclaimer is a less formal process that is much quicker.

The theory is that both processes dissolve the union.

 

[dash]

so they can save a season?

so the question is again

what happens to all players since contracts are toast under Old cba

and do teams keep their draft picks entry level deal players?

I don't think anybody knows for sure at this point, Matty, I really think this is just a ploy by the NHLPA to get the NHL back to the bargaining table to try to get a deal done.

 

[forty_three]

so they can save a season?

so the question is again

what happens to all players since contracts are toast under Old cba

and do teams keep their draft picks entry level deal players?

Oh dear god, what a clusterfuck that could become...

Not that it did much good, but it appears Mario was doing his best to save the season...

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Well if the holy duo of Sid and Mario can't fix it, no one can.

 

[IndyAndy]

just 8 of them. the others dont matter anyway

Maybe I misunderstood what happened last week: Wasn't it Bettman's idea to have the direct player/owner meetings - including inviting four of the owners who, appearently, don't matter?

I'm not disagreeing with your premise that some owners' views 'carry more weight' than others. I'm just noting that Bettman looks, well, worse than he already does if he lets people sit at the negotiating table who have little or no clue just what the hell has really transpired up to that point.

 

[mattola]

Maybe I misunderstood what happened last week: Wasn't it Bettman's idea to have the direct player/owner meetings - including inviting four of the owners who, appearently, don't matter?

I'm not disagreeing with your premise that some owners' views 'carry more weight' than others. I'm just noting that Bettman looks, well, worse than he already does if he lets people sit at the negotiating table who have little or no clue just what the hell has really transpired up to that point.

i was just being sarcastic with the way that small amount of owners is controlling the season.

but no it didnt matter it was for PR IMO anyway. that meeting was set up to fail I think to make Fehr look bad. at least in my view

 

[IndyAndy]

No worries, mattola. I understood that you were being sarcastic.

The author of that article, on the other hand...

 

[mattola]

No worries, mattola. I understood that you were being sarcastic.

The author of that article, on the other hand...

good cause sometimes I dont understand it

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

Donald Fehr watched Marvin Miller change baseball & really the way free agency is handled in all sports. It's scary what he might end up doing to hockey whether he intended to or not.

 

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John Lu does the math:

JohnLuTSNMtl: #NHL announces cancellation of games through December 30. By that date the lockout will have wiped out 43% of the season.

 

[esls79]

Not that it did much good, but it appears Mario was doing his best to save the season...

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With a 48 game season, Mario may make another comeback.

 

[forty_three]

John Lu does the math:

JohnLuTSNMtl: #NHL announces cancellation of games through December 30. By that date the lockout will have wiped out 43% of the season.

 

[puckhead]

John Lu does the math:

JohnLuTSNMtl: #NHL announces cancellation of games through December 30. By that date the lockout will have wiped out 43% of the season.

more math. what a fucking joke of a league.

‏@dtolensky
The NHL has cancelled an impressive 16.9% of their regular season games since Oct 2004 (1 in every 5.9) and 10.2% since Oct 1994 (1 in 9.8).

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

With a 48 game season, Mario may make another comeback.

So this means they have 2 to 3 weeks to get a deal done to salvage a 48 game season? I hope it happens. I really do, but I'm not about to get my hopes up.

 

[IPostedWhat]

I don't see the point of a 48 game Season.

The team that ends up winning the Cup is going to have an asterisk next to their name, and all the fans of the other 29 teams will never say that it truly means anything.

No one will really recognize that team as a "true" SC Winner.

 

[dash]

I don't see the point of a 48 game Season.

The team that ends up winning the Cup is going to have an asterisk next to their name, and all the fans of the other 29 teams will never say that it truly means anything.

No one will really recognize that team as a "true" SC Winner.

Only if a Mickey Mouse organization ends up winning the Cup...

 

[IPostedWhat]

Only if a Mickey Mouse organization ends up winning the Cup...

Well now you're just being goofy.

 

[dash]

Well now you're just being goofy.

It sure beats being grumpy...

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

Maybe this is the year hell freezes over.

 

[dash]

By the way, I just watched an interview with Kevin Westgarth. Sharp, well-spoken guy, he put that dufus Doug Maclean in his place.

 

[DaBoltsNIsles]

By the way, I just watched an interview with Kevin Westgarth. Sharp, well-spoken guy, he put that dufus Doug Maclean in his place.

I guess one positive from this lockout is I don't have to listen to McGuire or Milbury.