Do we have a CBA strife thread yet?

[Eddie_Shack]

I wish I was mad enough to go dickstabbing, but I pretty much gave up on a season when the NHLPA hired Fehr.

 

[dash]

The worst part of this is that we all essentially become Oilers fans and look forward to the draft lottery...

 

[forty_three]

Damn, I hope there is a podcast of this exchange:

Tempers heated up on the radio today too, but in my mind a most entertaining way. I was listening to “Hockey Central” on AM 590 The Fan from Toronto today and hosts Doug MacLean (former Columbus GM and Florida coach), former NHL player and host Nick Kypreos and the “drive” host, Darren Millard, got into it over the lockout. Boy, did they ever. Mostly, it was a match between MacLean (on the owners’ side right now) and Kypreos (on the players’ side).

Okay, that's good enough for me. Whatever he says, it is the opposite. Seriously, if he came out tomorrow and said he likes steak, I'd become a vegetarian.

But it got downright nasty at one point between the two. MacLean made a point that third- and fourth-liners are doing just fine, salary-wise, in the NHL and that a deal as it might have been done with the current terms would keep them still doing fine. He also said “nobody gives a crap” about the bottom 400 players in the NHL, that people only care about the top 300. Kypreos disagreed, and that’s when things got heated. Kypreos unloaded with this fusillade: “Maybe that’s why you never won in Columbus, because you crapped all over third- and fourth-liners.” MacLean lost his stack, firing back, “Maybe that’s why you only had an eight-year career. Maybe that’s why you got kicked out. Don’t start throwing darts when you don’t know what you’re talkin’ about.”[/I]

And it went on from there.

Hi pot, this is kettle. You know what? You're black!

Why am I not surprised he doesn't think anything of role players and fourth liners? Because he was CONVINCED his high draft picks were aces.

Has there ever been anyone dumber in hockey?

Once Fehr & Bettman returned things headed south, what a surprise.

And yet, one of them will keep their job.

 

[Eddie_Shack]

Shit, we don't have a first rounder... AGAIN..

 

[forty_three]

The worst part of this is that we all essentially become Oilers fans and look forward to the draft lottery...

Already there.



Except for the Oiler part.

 

[mattola]

Yeah, so Fehr tried to mislead the media. Whoda thunk?

Nope outright lied in hope we believe the NHL fucks it up


They both did

This is OVER

 

[Eddie_Shack]

I sincerely believe that both the owners and the PA would drag the lockout into a second season. They saw how the fans came back after two lockouts in less than ten years, and really the league revenues have been doing nothing but going up since '06. I guarantee you both sides truly believe we will all be back, even if this stretches into the '13 season. There's no sense of urgency to get this done, so I'm pretty much saying fuck 'em at this point.

 

[mooger_35]

Here you go Matt

/sigh

 

[KennyBanyeah]

Wow.

The language and the misrepresentation of the facts by these two is staggering.

Intelligent folk can strip all of that away. When you do you get two guys who know, and care, nothing about the game.

I've been optimistic from day one but I think this thing is done. I'm not sure at this point that I'm optimistic next season will start on time.

 

[IPostedWhat]

Does Buffalo Sabres owner Terry Pegula want to start up his own Hockey League?

 

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@TGfireandice: You have to wonder why Don Fehr was in such a rush to tell everyone how great things looked after NHLPA asked for mediation earlier in day.

Yup, that's a great question.

 

[flyersfan4706]

Bettman is mad

 

[mooger_35]

Nick Cotsonika ‏@cotsonika
Bettman: The characterization that we were close, that reminds me of the last time the union said we were close and we were $1B apart.


If I wasn't ready to smash something I'd laugh.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

@TGfireandice: You have to wonder why Don Fehr was in such a rush to tell everyone how great things looked after NHLPA asked for mediation earlier in day.

Yup, that's a great question.

Fehr's bullshit antics aside (and BTW the day is coming when the media and even the players get sick of his misdirections), why did they ever send the mediators away?

It seems like it's always been one step forward and two steps back during this process. You'd think a mediator could keep track of any progress and use it to keep negotiations going.

Nope. Don't need 'em.

 

[flyersfan4706]

Contract limits according the Daly are "the hill we will die on"

 

[flyersfan4706]

Make Whole is off the table.

 

[flyersfan4706]

Ohh mannn Garold is pissed

 

[flyersfan4706]

I give Gary all the credit in the world for not dropping an f-bomb yet. Wow. Head o' fucking steam right now.

 

[esls79]

Contract limits according the Daly are "the hill we will die on"

THe players will have to give up the notion that the owners are being unfair on this or else they will never play in the NHL again. If I was a player, I'd be pissed, but when I took a step back, I'd be pissed at Donald Fehr for insisting this was a deal breaker.

 

[flyersfan4706]

THe players will have to give up the notion that the owners are being unfair on this or else they will never play in the NHL again. If I was a player, I'd be pissed, but when I took a step back, I'd be pissed at Donald Fehr for insisting this was a deal breaker.

Well it is a deal breaker, no? I'd be pissed too, but sorry players, it just is non-negotiable.