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Because if we don't pay Kirk all this magical rebuild under SM we are so happy about goes right out the window. We are starting over. Again. With total uncertainty at the QB position and no solution in sight. That makes zero sense. Keep improving the roster and we could contend in a short time, ship Kirk out of town and we will suck again for several years at best.

That is your opinion. Having Kc back doesn't guarantee us shit. He is still not a proven product yet but if we have to pay him the Nfls's best to see if that happens. This is what I don't like. Its just as much of a risk paying him then no paying him.
 

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name them again

Glennon, MCcown, and a rookie this year. Mcoy as a stop gap. Next years draft class and Fa Qb's. Why does this have to be solved this year? Why the rush?
 

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Glennon, MCcown, and a rookie this year. Mcoy as a stop gap. Next years draft class and Fa Qb's. Why does this have to be solved this year? Why the rush?
are you kidding me glennon and mccown ? come on neither get us to the playoffs next year .

now why doesnt it have to be solved this year ? because KC , the guy you are dumping , will get us there next year so why set us back for nothing ? and again your own debate point says changing qbs wont set us back
 

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are you kidding me glennon and mccown ? come on neither get us to the playoffs next year .

now why doesnt it have to be solved this year ? because KC , the guy you are dumping , will get us there next year so why set us back for nothing ? and again your own debate point says changing qbs wont set us back

that is all hersay. Kc couldn't regress in 2017? Its not possible? I'm not dumping on KC at all. I just don't want to pay top dollar for his talent level right now. Its not the end of the world if we lose him. We will see. I hope he takes a fair deal and a fair deal is not 80-90mg. Just my opinion.
 

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that is all hersay. Kc couldn't regress in 2017? Its not possible? I'm not dumping on KC at all. I just don't want to pay top dollar for his talent level right now. Its not the end of the world if we lose him. We will see. I hope he takes a fair deal and a fair deal is not 80-90mg. Just my opinion.
hogwash dean , telling me glennon or mccown is an upgrade is simply fooling yourself . the skins put themselves into anti upping 80-90 mil guaranteed by low balling him last season . i see KC as on the rise not the decline
 

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hogwash dean , telling me glennon or mccown is an upgrade is simply fooling yourself . the skins put themselves into anti upping 80-90 mil guaranteed by low balling him last season . i see KC as on the rise not the decline

Of course Kc on the rise could happen but their are other outs if his offers are outrageous.
 

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Of course Kc on the rise could happen but their are other outs if his offers are outrageous.
nothing outrageous at all . its the going rate for the qb
 

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nothing outrageous at all . its the going rate for the qb

its the going rate for the top young Qb in the league. You cant compare KC to Luck right now.
 

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its the going rate for the top young Qb in the league. You cant compare KC to Luck right now.
its not about comparing him that is where you are wrong
 

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Because if we don't pay Kirk all this magical rebuild under SM we are so happy about goes right out the window. We are starting over. Again. With total uncertainty at the QB position and no solution in sight. That makes zero sense. Keep improving the roster and we could contend in a short time, ship Kirk out of town and we will suck again for several years at best.

While I'm not agreeing with dean's overall point ive said this before and I'll say it again. If Kirk isnt the guy it doesn't matter what the backup plan is. That's something you figure out seperately.
 

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So, the Redskins just lost Kirk Cousins. What do they do? Why not surrender a first-round pick of their own for a replacement?

The Patriots would like to trade Jimmy Garoppolo, but there's a problem. Almost every team that desperately needs a quarterback is selecting in the top 12, and that sort of a pick is too rich for Garoppolo. I'm sure those teams would love to surrender a high second-rounder for Garoppolo, but the Patriots want more. There are exceptions, but none that make sense. The Broncos have a young quarterback, while the Texans think No. 25 is too expensive.

What the Patriots need to do is find a team that's desperate, much like the Eagles did with the Vikings once Teddy Bridgewater got hurt. That would be the Redskins in the event of Cousins defecting for San Francisco. The Redskins would have the second- and 17th-overall picks in the 2017 NFL Draft in the event of Cousins departing, so I could see them offering No. 17 to the Patriots for Garoppolo. I'm confident the Patriots would say yes to that. New England could then take someone like Taco Charlton, Caleb Brantley, Sidney Jones or O.J. Howard.
 

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So, the Redskins just lost Kirk Cousins. What do they do? Why not surrender a first-round pick of their own for a replacement?

The Patriots would like to trade Jimmy Garoppolo, but there's a problem. Almost every team that desperately needs a quarterback is selecting in the top 12, and that sort of a pick is too rich for Garoppolo. I'm sure those teams would love to surrender a high second-rounder for Garoppolo, but the Patriots want more. There are exceptions, but none that make sense. The Broncos have a young quarterback, while the Texans think No. 25 is too expensive.

What the Patriots need to do is find a team that's desperate, much like the Eagles did with the Vikings once Teddy Bridgewater got hurt. That would be the Redskins in the event of Cousins defecting for San Francisco. The Redskins would have the second- and 17th-overall picks in the 2017 NFL Draft in the event of Cousins departing, so I could see them offering No. 17 to the Patriots for Garoppolo. I'm confident the Patriots would say yes to that. New England could then take someone like Taco Charlton, Caleb Brantley, Sidney Jones or O.J. Howard.

I thought the rumor was the Cle was offering there #12 for him.
 

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that was just on walterfootball.com, hes usually a great source.....
 

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but that was also taken from a "predict where the QB lands article" not a rumor mill
 

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that was just on walterfootball.com, hes usually a great source.....

I think its a done deal for Grap to go to Cle for #12. It makes sense for both teams. If the Pats reject that offer I would be surprised.
 

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Of course it is comparing him financially and on the field.
absolutely not its what he does on the field that counts . crying about a contract that will be obsolete within a year is foolish and shows me what most suspect already . its about a shiny draft pick we most likely wont get anyway

we wont get that number 2 just like we told you we wont get the 2 firsts unless we part with the 17 as well which would be a horrible deal
 

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absolutely not its what he does on the field that counts . crying about a contract that will be obsolete within a year is foolish and shows me what most suspect already . its about a shiny draft pick we most likely wont get anyway

we wont get that number 2 just like we told you we wont get the 2 firsts unless we part with the 17 as well which would be a horrible deal

Right its about what KC has done on the field. How can you compare that limited body of work to what Luck has done in his career? How is that on the same level? Its not about the draft picks. Its a nice out if they cant get anything worked out.

You make it sound like we have Luck already on the roster and still want draft picks. cmon man.
 
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