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Devey vs Tiller Breakdown

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Tiller just looked the part. He wasn't great, but he was solid. Devey needs to sit.

The bigger cause for concern is that Brandon Thomas hasn't sniffed the playing field despite being highly touted out of the draft. With our OL woes, this is more troublesome to me then anything.
 

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Tiller just looked the part. He wasn't great, but he was solid. Devey needs to sit.

The bigger cause for concern is that Brandon Thomas hasn't sniffed the playing field despite being highly touted out of the draft. With our OL woes, this is more troublesome to me then anything.


just play whomever is the better player today. Remove all the trade value, game experience, or cap hit, play the better player.

you mean Brandon Thomas the IR draftee? At this point, we can only hope it is still his injury as opposed to not being good?
 

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Marcus Martin doesn't look good at all, sometimes he is moved BACKWARDS on run plays?! A center should at least hold his ground, minimum.

i WILL credit him for making good snaps. Can't REALLY opine on his line adjustments, but it appeared ok?
 

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I just had a quick look at the GIFs in the link you posted. Man, Tiller simply looks like he is much harder to move and to get around compared to Devey. He needs to play more than Devey. I'm not so sure about giving them even snap counts.
I think we will see Tiller more in this game but will put Devey in for when they pull the guard. Devey is faster and he isn't a bad pulling guard.
 

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Marcus Martin doesn't look good at all, sometimes he is moved BACKWARDS on run plays?! A center should at least hold his ground, minimum.

i WILL credit him for making good snaps. Can't REALLY opine on his line adjustments, but it appeared ok?
Cant wait for Kilgore to come back.
 

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I think we will see Tiller more in this game but will put Devey in for when they pull the guard. Devey is faster and he isn't a bad pulling guard.

The problem with that is that we would be giving the Ravens a heads-up on what kind of play they should expect.
 

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The problem with that is that we would be giving the Ravens a heads-up on what kind of play they should expect.


Do we expect to run more "straight ahead", or more "outside"? IF it boils down to this, i'd still go with Tiller.
 

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The problem with that is that we would be giving the Ravens a heads-up on what kind of play they should expect.
yes but u try and disguise it. Maybe when he is in the game you don't do it all the time. I guess we have to wait and see. Im Happy Tiller is playing. I been calling for this for 2 weeks.
 

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just play whomever is the better player today. Remove all the trade value, game experience, or cap hit, play the better player.

you mean Brandon Thomas the IR draftee? At this point, we can only hope it is still his injury as opposed to not being good?

You are not taking what I said the way it was meant. I typically don't give a shit about draft slots based on who plays, except relative to "potential" vs. playing time. If a 3rd rounder doesn't see the field, it brings up FAR more questions about talent/potential and our FO's ability to draft effectively then an undrafted FA not seeing the field.
 

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You are not taking what I said the way it was meant. I typically don't give a shit about draft slots based on who plays, except relative to "potential" vs. playing time. If a 3rd rounder doesn't see the field, it brings up FAR more questions about talent/potential and our FO's ability to draft effectively then an undrafted FA not seeing the field.

you said Tiller looks the part and Devey needs to sit, i replied play the better player. Am i not agreeing with you? If this isn't agreeing with you, what did i mean?

the part on draft slot, etc. was an extension of my reply, but my point was "play the better player".
 

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I just had a quick look at the GIFs in the link you posted. Man, Tiller simply looks like he is much harder to move and to get around compared to Devey. He needs to play more than Devey. I'm not so sure about giving them even snap counts.

Will be interesting to see how Tiller does this week. The players seem to be high on him.
 

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You are not taking what I said the way it was meant. I typically don't give a shit about draft slots based on who plays, except relative to "potential" vs. playing time. If a 3rd rounder doesn't see the field, it brings up FAR more questions about talent/potential and our FO's ability to draft effectively then an undrafted FA not seeing the field.

Starting to wonder about that. Carradine, for one, has for the most part been the invisible man. Looks like Armstead is going to start replacing him on snaps. Lemonier looks llke another useless draft pick.
 

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Do we expect to run more "straight ahead", or more "outside"? IF it boils down to this, i'd still go with Tiller.

Based on history so far, most of the running plays with Hyde are to the outside.
 

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Based on history so far, most of the running plays with Hyde are to the outside.

called run to the outside, or he is forced to bounce outside?

anyway, sticking to my opinion.....if we're going outside more often, and need a pulling guard, use Devey. If we're going run more inside, use Tiller. IF it comes down to this?
 

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called run to the outside, or he is forced to bounce outside?

anyway, sticking to my opinion.....if we're going outside more often, and need a pulling guard, use Devey. If we're going run more inside, use Tiller. IF it comes down to this?

They look mostly designed plays to me with the guard pulling
 

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You are not taking what I said the way it was meant. I typically don't give a shit about draft slots based on who plays, except relative to "potential" vs. playing time. If a 3rd rounder doesn't see the field, it brings up FAR more questions about talent/potential and our FO's ability to draft effectively then an undrafted FA not seeing the field.

I used to think that Baalke was a good GM. Now I'm not so sure.
 
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