Detroit Tigers Ongoing 2016 Thread

[broncosmitty]

Atleast Delmon is laying off the Jews now.

What a fucknut that guy is.

 

[Howie115]

 

[Howie115]

Onto other news...

Reports: Tigers Agree To 2-Year, $18.5 Million Deal With J.D. Martinez

 

[gvsulaker82]

I would have much rather had clippard than lowe. Lowe will have an ERA above 4.5 this year while clippard will have a 3.5 or lower. At least the tigs have made a concerted effort to address the pen this off-season tho so I can't complain. Although I think many rages will be had toward Mark Lowe from me.

 

[MiamiVice]

I would have much rather had clippard than lowe. Lowe will have an ERA above 4.5 this year while clippard will have a 3.5 or lower. At least the tigs have made a concerted effort to address the pen this off-season tho so I can't complain. Although I think many rages will be had toward Mark Lowe from me.

I don't know about 4.5 era's.... But I doubt he is going to be anywhere near his era of last year. My guess would be closer to the 3.8 era of 2011.

 

[MiamiVice]

I bet by the end of the year Mark Lowe will be pitching in the 6th and a guy like Verhagen, Rondon, or one of the Wilsons will be in the 8th.

 

[MiamiVice]

I am hoping that one of the Tigers prospects like Joe Jiminez or Voelker pushes his way in to the bullpen with lights out performance.

 

[broncosmitty]

Is Dexter Fowler a TypeA player? He would've been a better option that Maybin, if he's not.

He prolly is though, or wants a long deal.

Still woulda been better. No idea what Big Als hurry was to fill his roster with blah.

 

[Iffster]

Is Dexter Fowler a TypeA player? He would've been a better option that Maybin, if he's not.

He prolly is though, or wants a long deal.

Still woulda been better. No idea what Big Als hurry was to fill his roster with blah.

Fowler would cost a pick AND a contract large enough that he'd played full time, probably in LF. So - if Detroit had signed Fowler earlier, I doubt they would have signed Upton.

 

[MiamiVice]

Maybin is only costing Detroit 5.5 mil and has a team option for 9 mil next year... Fowler costs a pick and much more money. They are comparable players... Maybin > Fowler at the price they got him.

 

[Iffster]

Is Dexter Fowler a TypeA player? He would've been a better option that Maybin, if he's not.

He prolly is though, or wants a long deal.

Still woulda been better. No idea what Big Als hurry was to fill his roster with blah.

I have read media complaints that Detroit was stupid for signing Maybin and then Upton. At the time Detroit got Maybin, I doubt they, or anyone else, figured Upton would eventually sign for two years and then an opt-out clause. Maybin, essentially, was a replacement (and a better player?) for Rajai Davis. With the Tiger's depth in the OF - Upton, JD, Gose, Maybin, and Aviles - they are covered for any injury in the outfield or at DH.

 

[broncosmitty]

Fowler would cost a pick AND a contract large enough that he'd played full time, probably in LF. So - if Detroit had signed Fowler earlier, I doubt they would have signed Upton.

If he's TypeA then that's that.

 

[broncosmitty]

Maybin is only costing Detroit 5.5 mil and has a team option for 9 mil next year... Fowler costs a pick and much more money. They are comparable players... Maybin > Fowler at the price they got him.

Fowler is clearly a better all around player. I wouldn't really say they are comparable. Maybe, but BF is pretty much superior in all areas. But I get why he's not on a roster with him being a TypeA.

 

[MiamiVice]

If he's TypeA then that's that.

There is no type a or type b anymore.

 

[MiamiVice]

Under the terms of the new Collective Bargaining Agreement, the structure has changed. The old Type A and Type B designations are gone. When a player reaches free agency, his former team may make him what is known as a qualifying offer, worth the average amount of the previous season's top 125 salaries -- $13.3 million this offseason.

 

[broncosmitty]

Is there any difference between not offering a player arbitration (Like DD with Polanco.) and not offering them a qualifying offer? When it comes to compensation? Or conversely, by offering them arbitration(like Theo with VMart.) and them declining, or offering a qualifying offer (like Zimmerman in Waahington) and them declining? (Nobody gets another team's actual pick anymore, I got that part, I think.)

The Cubs offered Fowler a one year deal, so he's kinda screwed on getting a long one now. Since he isn't awesome.

He'd cost a fourth rounder for us, right? (Costing a Pick will be categorized as TypeA in my head for atleast another decade.) theoreticly

 

[Howie115]

Tigers who could rebound in 2016 season

Al Avila says Verlander and Cabrera are both "actually working on strength and conditioning like a normal offseason" instead of rehabbing. For Cabrera, it's the first time in three years he hasn't had to rehab from something.

 

[MiamiVice]

Is there any difference between not offering a player arbitration (Like DD with Polanco.) and not offering them a qualifying offer? When it comes to compensation? Or conversely, by offering them arbitration(like Theo with VMart.) and them declining, or offering a qualifying offer (like Zimmerman in Waahington) and them declining? (Nobody gets another team's actual pick anymore, I got that part, I think.)

The Cubs offered Fowler a one year deal, so he's kinda screwed on getting a long one now. Since he isn't awesome.

He'd cost a fourth rounder for us, right? (Costing a Pick will be categorized as TypeA in my head for atleast another decade.) theoreticly

Not offering arb makes them a free agent early. Qualifying offers are for players past arb. If you don't offer arb you lose them for nothing. Tigers didn't offer arb to Feliz this year so they lost him for nothing... But he would have gotten more in the arb process than his worth hence not offering it. Players can't decline arb... They have to participate in the arb process if they are still under their arbitration years.

 

[MiamiVice]

Salary Arbitration | FanGraphs Sabermetrics Library

 

[MiamiVice]

He would cost a 4th rounder yes.

Hoping the Tigers replace the lost value from the draft through investments in international prospects.