Derrick Henry...

[FSUmanager]

If Dalvin Cook got 339 carries he would have 2,678 yards lol

If he had played all of Wake and Syracuse at all at his avg ypc and carries per game. He would have 1954 yds. All with 80 fewer carries.

Best measure is common opponent which is UF. Here is a comparison.

Dalvin Cook, Derrick Henry, and Leonard Fournette against a common opponent

At least the Jim Brown award recognized him. He won't even be invited to NYC.

 

[FSUmanager]

This made me chuckle. Of Henry's extra 332 yds to cook. It took 128 carries for a YPC of 2.59 yds.

 

[7Samurai13]

Derrick Henry resume
---------- tied with Herschel Walker for single season rushing TDs record that has held for some 30+ years
---------- broke ALL TIME high school rushing record held for some ungodly 60+ years
---------- broke Herschel Walker's record for SEC total single season rushing yards held for some 30+ years
---------- broke Johnny Musso's record for carries in a game by an Alabama RB held for some ungodly 40+ years


Basically, he's a walking record book, breaking records that have stood the test of time.

Just give him the trophy so he doesn't run you over too and break another record along the way.

Give Walker two extra games, like Henry has, and Henry would be no where close.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

You know it strikes me that with that two extra games making it so easy to break Herschel's record, why arent all RB's doing it? Seems like that extra two games would make it a cake walk. Why Dalvin Cook should've been able to do it in the same amount of games as Herschel if he's as good as everyone says he is. Wonder why he didnt do it. Why didnt McCaffrey do it? I mean its only two less games, surely its easy to do.

I am curious of one other thing. If that two extra games makes it so easy, why didnt Cook or McCaffrey break the records in their allotted games? Its two extra games, that should make it easy.

 

[Mistaken4193]

Donny get me wring I get the McCaffery hype. He's A Nice feel goos story from a media point of view. But when you break it down and put it all in black and white. Until McCaffery proves himself vs top tier defenses all he is is a story. His stats are padded by a combination of shotty defenses and a down year for the PAC. When competing against a team that plays sound defense he was a complete non factor. I also expect him to be held in check when Stanford plays Ohio State. He may be a good player but he's not the reggie bush 2.0 are trying to make him out to be.Until he can prove himself against a solid defense Rolltide nailed it he's a poor man's Toby Gerhart. Realistically theres only 3 legit heisman candidates Henry,Mayfield and Elliot imo

Who the Fuck is Donny, Clark??

 

[romeo212000]

Bo, to be fair, nobody else asks their running back to tote the rock 40 times a game either.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Who the Fuck is Donny, Clark??

It was supposed to say don't. I'm guessing it was the Stanford nerds and their tech squad sabotaging my post. They're doing all they can to try to get bieber a heisman doesn't matter really tho Henry is the better back bieber fails the eye test

 

[7Samurai13]

You know it strikes me that with that two extra games making it so easy to break Herschel's record, why arent all RB's doing it? Seems like that extra two games would make it a cake walk. Why Dalvin Cook should've been able to do it in the same amount of games as Herschel if he's as good as everyone says he is. Wonder why he didnt do it. Why didnt McCaffrey do it? I mean its only two less games, surely its easy to do.

I am curious of one other thing. If that two extra games makes it so easy, why didnt Cook or McCaffrey break the records in their allotted games? Its two extra games, that should make it easy.

Most teams with a good RB have a good QB. Bama has a mediocre QB and an NFL line.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Most teams with a good RB have a good QB. Bama has a mediocre QB and an NFL line.

Bama has a QB that does what is asked of him. The stats this year are showing a balanced team. The game plan is reigned in by Saban. If Kiffin had his choice Bama would pass every down. Coker has a 66% completion percentage on the season with a 139 rating. Thats not too shabby for a first year starter who knew his reps would be limited due to Henry and Drake.

 

[Rolltide94]

Most teams with a good RB have a good QB. Bama has a mediocre QB and an NFL line.

Shouldn't a mediocre quarterback make it harder...I mean, if you know he's going to get it 40+ times a game, shouldn't you be able to game plan for that...either every defensive coordinator we have played is poor or Henry is an elite back....

 

[7Samurai13]

Shouldn't a mediocre quarterback make it harder...I mean, if you know he's going to get it 40+ times a game, shouldn't you be able to game plan for that...either every defensive coordinator we have played is poor or Henry is an elite back....

Who said he wasn't elite? He is going to get more touches on the ball if your quarterback isn't a very good quarterback. Do you not get that? If you have a good quarterback he's going to pass the ball more. Never once have I said Henry wasn't a phenomenal back. Stop playing the victim. You're Bama, fucking act like it.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Shouldn't a mediocre quarterback make it harder...I mean, if you know he's going to get it 40+ times a game, shouldn't you be able to game plan for that...either every defensive coordinator we have played is poor or Henry is an elite back....

That's my thought. When you have elite defenses keying in on the RB. Generally it forces the game into a mediocre Aqaba hands to force them to beat you. Ie Fournette one of the best RBs in the game. He was shut down when SEC defenses keyed in on him. Henry just continued to produce. That makes Henry's stats and performances that much more impressive IMO

 

[OnlyCrimson]

Most teams with a good RB have a good QB. Bama has a mediocre QB and an NFL line.

Bama has a great Running Back, a mediocre QB and an average O Line.

 

[Tharvot]

Has played 8 top 50 rush defenses this year and has 1986 yards and 23 TDs. He is the best 2nd Half RB I have ever seen and the best Blocking RB I have ever seen. This guy has ran against stacked boxes all year and still hasnt been stopped. I love the Guy and think he Deserves the Heisman.

I think he's the runaway winner.

 

[7Samurai13]

Bama has a great Running Back, a mediocre QB and an average O Line.

If Bama has a mediocre QB, an average O line and last year was the worst defense under Saban; how can Bama fans say that Saban isn't slipping? Still a top 2 head coach but both he and Meyer are allowing the pack to catch up.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Richardson has been a mystery. I have hear that his work ethic dropped off and his attitude changed. Not sure.

The fact that this guy has been a record breaker at every level he has played says he is not like that, he is driven to be successful.

I did some checking on McCaffrey and the defenses he faced. He faced 9 defenses that ranked below 50th and when I say below, he had 2 that were slightly below and 7 that were way below that line. He built his numbers on bad defenses. He had one good game against a top 50 defense and that was Washington where he had 221 years of offense. The other two top 50 defenses he had 89 and 113 yards respectively. He all but became normal against like players. Seems like what your saying is not really the case with McCaffrey, he becomes normal as the level of competition gets better. Henry got better as the competition got better and the game wore on.

His translation to NFL has nothing to do with the defenses, his skills do.

 

[OnlyCrimson]

If Bama has a mediocre QB, an average O line and last year was the worst defense under Saban; how can Bama fans say that Saban isn't slipping? Still a top 2 head coach but both he and Meyer are allowing the pack to catch up.

Because we are back to back SEC Champs and have made the playoffs two years in a row. It's unrealistic to expect Saban or any coach to always have the best of everything.

 

[7Samurai13]

Because we are back to back SEC Champs and have made the playoffs two years in a row. It's unrealistic to expect Saban or any coach to always have the best of everything.

The last two years the SEC has been very weak. Again, I'm not saying he isn't a top head coach, not one I would want again because he would just turn tail and run again, but the gap is closing between the next grouping of coaches.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

His translation to NFL has nothing to do with the defenses, his skills do.

The Heisman doesnt have anything to do with translation to the NFL though, which is why your conversation doesnt have a place in this thread.

With that said. While McCaffrey may be seviceable in the NFL with the right team, his ability to disappear under good competition leaves one to wonder if he would be a good fit at the next level since every team is playing the best of the best on every college team. Will he just be an average player that fades away, or will he raise his skill level? Hard to pinpoint but the fact he gets less yards against top competition would be a worry if I was a GM looking at a player.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

That's my thought. When you have elite defenses keying in on the RB. Generally it forces the game into a mediocre Aqaba hands to force them to beat you. Ie Fournette one of the best RBs in the game. He was shut down when SEC defenses keyed in on him. Henry just continued to produce. That makes Henry's stats and performances that much more impressive IMO

But, but Bama's QB is average.