David Ortiz is sick of the asterisk

[SlinkyRedfoot]

i guess that means you think my opinion is indeed, incorrect.

It means I found your post funny.

As has been pointed out, there are players with better resumes than David Ortiz, without positive PED tests, who have so far not made the HOF at all. That being the case, I do not agree with your opinion.

My opinion is that he should make it into the HOF, but not on the first ballot. However, unless the writers assoc lightens up on suspected juicers, there's a chance that he won't make it in at all.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

weird
in my reality, opinions arent wrong.

My opinion is that is a strange reality, Mr. Strongo.

 

[Rock Strongo]

It means I found your post funny.

As has been pointed out, there are players with better resumes than David Ortiz, without positive PED tests, who have so far not made the HOF at all. That being the case, I do not agree with your opinion.

My opinion is that he should make it into the HOF, but not on the first ballot. However, unless the writers assoc lightens up on suspected juicers, there's a chance that he won't make it in at all.

fair enough

i just think hes teh guy to break that DH barrier...larger than life, smiling, big personality...then add the HR/RBI/OPS/3 rings...

 

[Rock Strongo]

My opinion is that is a strange reality, Mr. Strongo.

logically, opinions are neither right nor wrong.

theyre opinions.

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

fair enough

i just think hes teh guy to break that DH barrier...larger than life, smiling, big personality...then add the HR/RBI/OPS/3 rings...

I agree with you. I'd vote him in. Just not on the 1st ballot.

 

[obxyankeefan]

weird
in my reality, opinions arent wrong.

In your reality the 2010 hockey playoffs don't exist either

 

[SlinkyRedfoot]

logically, opinions are neither right nor wrong.

theyre opinions.

Semantics are fun!

Insomuch that an opinion does not have to be based on facts, they're neither right nor wrong. However, opinions -- even yours -- can be illogical.

 

[Rock Strongo]

In your reality the 2010 hockey playoffs don't exist either

didnt happen

 

[Rock Strongo]

Semantics are fun!

Insomuch that an opinion does not have to be based on facts, they're neither right nor wrong. However, opinions -- even yours -- can be illogical.

just because i want to:

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what exactly is "illogical" about me saying ortiz is first ballot?

 

[MilkSpiller22]

I agree with you. I'd vote him in. Just not on the 1st ballot.

Would you vote for Carlos Delgado??

 

[Rock Strongo]

Would you vote for Carlos Delgado??

still roasting that chestnut, huh?

when delgado was the offensive centerpiece of 3 WS titles...and is considered the best DH of all time...message me.

 

[obxyankeefan]

still roasting that chestnut, huh?

when delgado was the offensive centerpiece of 3 WS titles...and is considered the best DH of all time...message me.

So what you are saying is the difference between 1st ballot HoF and not staying on the ballot is playing on a team with liberal use of ketchup vs playing on the Mets.

 

[MilkSpiller22]

still roasting that chestnut, huh?

when delgado was the offensive centerpiece of 3 WS titles...and is considered the best DH of all time...message me.

Yes I am roasting that chestnut... Look at their numbers they are a mirror of eachother... Delgado even has a higher OPS...

The point is, being the best DH of all time is not an achievement, If he is going to make it solely because of his offense you have to compare him to other players that would make it solely because of their offense... Delgado was a terrible defensive first baseman... But if Ortiz makes it then how can Delgado not make it, when Delgado at least played a defensive position...

 

[Rock Strongo]

So what you are saying is the difference between 1st ballot HoF and not staying on the ballot is playing on a team with liberal use of ketchup vs playing on the Mets.

delgado was a blowjay more than a met.

like, a lot.

he terrorized my red sox for years

 

[Rock Strongo]

Yes I am roasting that chestnut... Look at their numbers they are a mirror of eachother... Delgado even has a higher OPS...

The point is, being the best DH of all time is not an achievement, If he is going to make it solely because of his offense you have to compare him to other players that would make it solely because of their offense... Delgado was a terrible defensive first baseman... But if Ortiz makes it then how can Delgado not make it, when Delgado at least played a defensive position...

he would also make it on 3 WS rings...and having the best offensive stats (hr, RBI, hits) for a DH...ever.

you keep disregarding those. they matter, a whole hell of a lot.

 

[Rock Strongo]

wow, delgado only had a .808 OPS vs the sox

assumed it was a lot higher than that

 

[MilkSpiller22]

he would also make it on 3 WS rings...and having the best offensive stats (hr, RBI, hits) for a DH...ever.

you keep disregarding those. they matter, a whole hell of a lot.

Is Andy Petite going to make the HOF because he has the most playoff wins??(forget the steroids for a second)


I sure hope he wont be a HOF, because he was not that good!!!

 

[Rock Strongo]

Is Andy Petite going to make the HOF because he has the most playoff wins??(forget the steroids for a second)

like schilling?

sure

 

[cezero]

Ortiz is an idiot, or he is surrounded by idiot PR people.

Anything he voluntarily says or writes that includes any combination of the the words "tested", "fail", "positive", "PED", or "steroids" is ill-advised.

He's not going to convince anybody who thinks he's guilty that he's some innocent victim, and stands to make some of those on the fence who have heard the exactly the same stuff from Bonds and AFraud believe he's a cheat.

Pujols made the same mistake last year, though he filtered his through a letter from his lawyer, in which they threatened a ludicrous lawsuit. He at least got Clark to apologize for what he said, though I don't think that outweighs the negatives of him voluntarily bringing it back up.

 

[obxyankeefan]

delgado was a blowjay more than a met.

like, a lot.

he terrorized my red sox for years

I know, I just wanted to throw a disguised one at Hu.