Crazy idea to fix tanking

[TurnUpTheHeat]

No way we should leave it up to a poll or ranking. The beauty of pro sports is that we don't have polls or rankings and that things are settled on the field.

Settled by losing on purpose.
No professional team that charges what NBA teams do, shouldnt be giving the fans the best show, and best effort as possible.

 

[trojanfan12]

I meant that as a joke, but regarding your qustion, I never thought much about tanking until the Sixers brought so much attention to it. If the Warriors were so bad and someone joked that they shouldn't be in the NBA, I would probably laugh and agree.

Also, I'm not sure that any team has ever been where the Sixers are now. After all, they did set a North American record for consecutive losses by a major pro sports team.

Maybe not as bad, but for a few it hasn't been for lack of trying. The Clippers had annual lottery parties for years.

 

[Robotech]

Settled by losing on purpose.
No professional team that charges what NBA teams do, shouldnt be giving the fans the best show, and best effort as possible.

Bad teams are being rewarded by the rule that is in place, but nevertheless, it's still being settled on the field. The last thing we need is to have a poll or ranking system get involved. We just need to change the rule. Maybe the teams with the six worst records should all have an equal number of ping pong balls for the draft lottery. That way there is no incentive to be the worst team, but a bad team is still assured of getting one of the top 6 picks.

 

[tlance]

Bad teams are being rewarded by the rule that is in place, but nevertheless, it's still being settled on the field. The last thing we need is to have a poll or ranking system get involved. We just need to change the rule. Maybe the teams with the six worst records should all have an equal number of ping pong balls for the draft lottery. That way there is no incentive to be the worst team, but a bad team is still assured of getting one of the top 6 picks.

But then teams will still tank to be in the bottom six, and the absolute worst could go years without getting an impact player.

Eliminate the lottery all together and things will be better

 

[UK Cowboy]

A true merit based approach rather than the Socialist way American pro sports leagues reward teams for failure by giving them higher draft picks.

The other thing you can do is just set a rotating draft order. Every team gets a number one pick every 30 years.

Or make the entire draft a lottery.... can you imagine the ratings a 2 hour primetime countdown from #32 to #1 totally blind would take in? More than a playoff game I bet

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

In Europe, bad soccer teams get relegated to a lower league. It would be kinda awesome if he could send the Sixers to the D-League.

Not a bad idea really. Send the worst NBA team to the D-League and promote the D-League champion to the NBA.

 

[Robotech]

Not a bad idea really. Send the worst NBA team to the D-League and promote the D-League champion to the NBA.

The Sixers are a D-League roster anyway.

That would be an awful lot of excitement for that D-League team's city if a team could be promoted to the NBA. It will never happen in American pro sports, but I do find the European way interesting. Europe is far more socialist than us in real life, but in sports, it's quite the opposite.

 

[MHSL82]

No way we should leave it up to a poll or ranking. The beauty of pro sports is that we don't have polls or rankings and that things are settled on the field.

Funny you said that, Tim Legler suggested there to be a playoffs (single game elimination system) for the 14 teams that don't make the playoffs. They would have to earn their spot. Of course, there would be an incentive to tank a bit to miss the playoffs, but the real talent would win the tourney. H suggested there be a break between the regular season and playoffs or to do it in between the Conference Finals and the NBA Finals.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

Bad teams are being rewarded by the rule that is in place, but nevertheless, it's still being settled on the field. The last thing we need is to have a poll or ranking system get involved. We just need to change the rule. Maybe the teams with the six worst records should all have an equal number of ping pong balls for the draft lottery. That way there is no incentive to be the worst team, but a bad team is still assured of getting one of the top 6 picks.

I think my suggestion would basically equate to that.

 

[trojanfan12]

Not a bad idea really. Send the worst NBA team to the D-League and promote the D-League champion to the NBA.

We're talking about a real sport, not soccer.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

We're talking about a real sport, not soccer.

The concept is interesting though. If a team is not good enough to play in the highest tier, they get relegated and play in a lower league. Worst team automatically goes down, the next 2 play a 'playoff style' scenario best of 7 series where the winner stays up and the loser goes down. Same would go on in the D-League - champion goes up and numbers 2 and 3 play against each other to join them.

 

[trojanfan12]

The concept is interesting though. If a team is not good enough to play in the highest tier, they get relegated and play in a lower league. Worst team automatically goes down, the next 2 play a 'playoff style' scenario best of 7 series where the winner stays up and the loser goes down. Same would go on in the D-League - champion goes up and numbers 2 and 3 play against each other to join them.

What happens to the pay of the players on the NBA team and those on the d-league team? Also, what about the players on the NBA team that deserve to stay?

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

What happens to the pay of the players on the NBA team and those on the d-league team? Also, what about the players on the NBA team that deserve to stay?

Several options are possible. Players can request "relegation trade release" clauses in their contract, allowing good players to still play in the NBA. Salary-wise it would depend on the team, market and sponsorships. If they decide to get rid of their better players and top earners it might mean they stick around in the D-League longer without getting promoted, but they save a lot of money that year and go for a complete rebuild. Alternatively they could continue keeping the better players and go straight back in the NBA the following year.

 

[trojanfan12]

Several options are possible. Players can request "relegation trade release" clauses in their contract, allowing good players to still play in the NBA. Salary-wise it would depend on the team, market and sponsorships. If they decide to get rid of their better players and top earners it might mean they stick around in the D-League longer without getting promoted, but they save a lot of money that year and go for a complete rebuild. Alternatively they could continue keeping the better players and go straight back in the NBA the following year.

No way the NBAPA goes for that. Besides, I think a simpler way to do it would be that once a team has been in the lottery for say, 4 or 5 straight years, the league steps in to see what is going on. The teams then have to show what they have done to improve, explain why it hasn't worked and what their plan is to fix it.

They could then set up a series of "sanctions" that could lead up to the owner eventually being forced to sell. I mean, if they can take the Clippers away from Donald Sterling for comments made in private, they can sure as heck do the same to an owner for running a team into the ground.

 

[tlance]

The Sixers are a D-League roster anyway.

That would be an awful lot of excitement for that D-League team's city if a team could be promoted to the NBA. It will never happen in American pro sports, but I do find the European way interesting. Europe is far more socialist than us in real life, but in sports, it's quite the opposite.

LOL.

The Sixers are much better than a D league team. I don't know much about soccer, but the set up over there is much, much different.

 

[podsox]

go the European soccer way. it would never happen but it would be great for the league. have the 4 worst teams be replaced by the 4 best teams in the nba d league yr to yr

 

[WiggyRuss]

Several options are possible. Players can request "relegation trade release" clauses in their contract, allowing good players to still play in the NBA. Salary-wise it would depend on the team, market and sponsorships. If they decide to get rid of their better players and top earners it might mean they stick around in the D-League longer without getting promoted, but they save a lot of money that year and go for a complete rebuild. Alternatively they could continue keeping the better players and go straight back in the NBA the following year.

its a ridiculously dumb idea that would never ever ever happen in American sports. There are so many obstacles its insane- not to mention- it would involve adding markets that are not as big as the current markets....ya--- we want the Canton Charge to get added to the top level. DUMB.

 

[WiggyRuss]

LOL.

The Sixers are much better than a D league team. I don't know much about soccer, but the set up over there is much, much different.

exactly...the Sixers would beat a dleague all star team 95 times out of 100

 

[msgkings322]

I have ALWAYS thought the World Champion should get the #1 pick, and work down. I also think a snake draft would be better than rewarding bad teams

To have a successful professional league in any team sport at all for any length of time, you literally have to have a mechanism for some turnover of good and bad teams. Bad teams have to get some help to become good.

 

[trojanfan12]

it would involve adding markets that are not as big as the current markets....ya--- we want the Canton Charge to get added to the top level.

Really good point. Hadn't even thought about that aspect. The top 4 teams in the d-league right now (based on standings) are the Maine Red Claws, Sioux Falls Skyforce, Reno BigHorns, and Austin Spurs.