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JoeyTourettes
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10-6 team fires coach... and goes 8-8, then 6-10 (or 5-11).
THAT 10-6 TEAM WASN'T GOOD!!!!! This has infuriated me over the course of this Shit Storm of the current version of the Chicago Bears.
*** Before I continue: Trestman/Tucker/Emery haven't been good enough. I get that- and if they are gone, that's fine with me...
I'm commenting on this REPEATED and REPEATED diatribe of revisionist history.
The Headline and talking point EVERYWHERE is that Trestman/Emery Inherited a Winning/Good Team and they just needed to add to it. THAT'S NOT TRUE!
Looking back this was our Starting Offense: Still here/Productive: Jay, Forte, Marshall, (rookie Alshon)
Kellen Davis
J'Marcus Webb
Chilo Rachal/James Brown/Chris Spencer
Garza
Lance Lewis
Gabe Carimi
Earl Bennett
Devin Hester
Backups: M. Bush, J. Campbell, A. Allen, D. Sanzenbacher
Looking at that- IS there anyone from that list that is better then the current player on the 2014 roster? Would you want any of them back as starters? Is this Good?
How about Tice vs Kromer/Trestman? Who do you want?
Now for the Defense:
Idonije- he was decent, was also 32 y.o. in 2012...near end of career in '12 and out of contract
Melton- IR and expensive. Was franchised and lost- it wouldn't have been smart for the $
Paea
Peppers- Disappeared in 2013- Contract/production NEEDED to let go of him.
Roach- signed as FA for good $ elsewhere. (nothing we could do- would you have over paid to keep him?)
Urlacher- declined contract offer, NOBODY else wanted him- retired
Briggs- has only played 17 of possible 32 games since (On IR now- so will miss the next 3) not the same.
Jennings
Tillman- has only played 10 of possible 32 games since. Loved him, but can't count on him anymore.
Wright- gone.
Conte- we have seen this "thing" for the past two years.
Key Backups: McClellin, Wooton, Toeaina, Collins, Bowman, Hayden, Steltz.
For the players that are no longer here...What have they done elsewhere?
This roster won 10 games? How? 1. They played crappy teams 2.They were healthier 3.Key players were younger and 2012 was their last decent season.
There was NOTHING behind the long term starters. When stars like Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman went down or production declined there was NOTHING in the pipeline to help. 2013 injuries completely decimated the team. Blame Angelo for that. I truly believe that if Lovie/Tice/Marinelli were still coaching after that 10-6 team they would have NOT had the 2nd ranked Offense and would have gone 5-11 or worse. Urlacher would have been paid what he wanted and hurt the bottom line and displayed how much he had declined. (probably would have been injured too)
I know there is no way of knowing this, and I'm speculating...does anyone think a Lovie Smith lead 2013 team would have made the playoffs? After the 10-6 2012 finish?
THAT 10-6 TEAM WASN'T GOOD!!!!! This has infuriated me over the course of this Shit Storm of the current version of the Chicago Bears.
*** Before I continue: Trestman/Tucker/Emery haven't been good enough. I get that- and if they are gone, that's fine with me...
I'm commenting on this REPEATED and REPEATED diatribe of revisionist history.
The Headline and talking point EVERYWHERE is that Trestman/Emery Inherited a Winning/Good Team and they just needed to add to it. THAT'S NOT TRUE!
Looking back this was our Starting Offense: Still here/Productive: Jay, Forte, Marshall, (rookie Alshon)
Kellen Davis
J'Marcus Webb
Chilo Rachal/James Brown/Chris Spencer
Garza
Lance Lewis
Gabe Carimi
Earl Bennett
Devin Hester
Backups: M. Bush, J. Campbell, A. Allen, D. Sanzenbacher
Looking at that- IS there anyone from that list that is better then the current player on the 2014 roster? Would you want any of them back as starters? Is this Good?
How about Tice vs Kromer/Trestman? Who do you want?
Now for the Defense:
Idonije- he was decent, was also 32 y.o. in 2012...near end of career in '12 and out of contract
Melton- IR and expensive. Was franchised and lost- it wouldn't have been smart for the $
Paea
Peppers- Disappeared in 2013- Contract/production NEEDED to let go of him.
Roach- signed as FA for good $ elsewhere. (nothing we could do- would you have over paid to keep him?)
Urlacher- declined contract offer, NOBODY else wanted him- retired
Briggs- has only played 17 of possible 32 games since (On IR now- so will miss the next 3) not the same.
Jennings
Tillman- has only played 10 of possible 32 games since. Loved him, but can't count on him anymore.
Wright- gone.
Conte- we have seen this "thing" for the past two years.
Key Backups: McClellin, Wooton, Toeaina, Collins, Bowman, Hayden, Steltz.
For the players that are no longer here...What have they done elsewhere?
This roster won 10 games? How? 1. They played crappy teams 2.They were healthier 3.Key players were younger and 2012 was their last decent season.
There was NOTHING behind the long term starters. When stars like Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman went down or production declined there was NOTHING in the pipeline to help. 2013 injuries completely decimated the team. Blame Angelo for that. I truly believe that if Lovie/Tice/Marinelli were still coaching after that 10-6 team they would have NOT had the 2nd ranked Offense and would have gone 5-11 or worse. Urlacher would have been paid what he wanted and hurt the bottom line and displayed how much he had declined. (probably would have been injured too)
I know there is no way of knowing this, and I'm speculating...does anyone think a Lovie Smith lead 2013 team would have made the playoffs? After the 10-6 2012 finish?