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im sick of cooley cooley said today mcgee and mclain are worser then any dlineman on are team now and last year wtf cooley .. cooley a.k.a mr poop they both never played a down with are coaches yet jesus fucking christ shut the fuck up
 

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Cooley is smart enough to never directly challenge Dan or Bruce. If he does, he is fired.
 

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we dont know maybe he is right
im not bashing cooley he has more football knowledge then any of us im bashing him because without seeing a player in are system how can you say there bad now if he was bashing them after a preseason game i understand
 

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I find it impossible to believe McClain and McGee are not upgrades to what we had.


A ford Escort is an upgrade over an older Ford Escort, at the end of the day, you still driving an Escort though.
 

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im not bashing cooley he has more football knowledge then any of us im bashing him because without seeing a player in are system how can you say there bad now if he was bashing them after a preseason game i understand

What complete nonsense. Every player, college or pro, is scouted and evaluated and virtually none play in the system the team that is doing the scouting has in place.
 

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What complete nonsense. Every player, college or pro, is scouted and evaluated and virtually none play in the system the team that is doing the scouting has in place.

I am with coach here. The team has a good DLine coach. Players likely do not play in the same system as college, it is an entire different level for one thing. Systems do matter though. Getting people who fit into your system is what makes Belichek so good. Good coaching can help players. It is not a guarantee but it is at least worth a look.
 

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im sick of cooley cooley said today mcgee and mclain are worser then any dlineman on are team now and last year wtf cooley .. cooley a.k.a mr poop they both never played a down with are coaches yet jesus fucking christ shut the fuck up
I believe the correct verbage is worster. Either that, or it's a town in Massachusetts.

Would you have to see me playing in the Skins system coached up by the Skins coaches in order to tell whether I'd be a good D lineman for them?
 

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Worstershire??
 

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I am with coach here. The team has a good DLine coach. Players likely do not play in the same system as college, it is an entire different level for one thing. Systems do matter though. Getting people who fit into your system is what makes Belichek so good. Good coaching can help players. It is not a guarantee but it is at least worth a look.

Well sure players all need to fit into your system and it's always a question mark until they play in the new system. But according to Coach's post scouting is a complete waste of time as we will never know how good a player is until they arrive.

Couldn't disagree more, players can certainly be evaluated before they are worked into a system. It is what determines a 1st rounder from a 7th and what separates the contract sizes of Josh Norman vs Ziggy Hood.
 

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Well sure players all need to fit into your system and it's always a question mark until they play in the new system. But according to Coach's post scouting is a complete waste of time as we will never know how good a player is until they arrive.

Couldn't disagree more, players can certainly be evaluated before they are worked into a system. It is what determines a 1st rounder from a 7th and what separates the contract sizes of Josh Norman vs Ziggy Hood.

Agree, they have a good idea how guys will perform by watching tape. How else would Manusky have a preconceived idea what side he wants McGee to play on. Agree 100%
 

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The both are run stopper guys who apparently are going to play DE
 

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A ford Escort is an upgrade over an older Ford Escort, at the end of the day, you still driving an Escort though.
Watching the rerun of Dallas vs GB right now. McClain is AWFUL!! Hand placement poor, takes himself out of plays regularly and for the most part, a non-factor. Haven't studied McGee but man, if he is not much better we are in trouble guys. We NEED DL help at #17.
BTW, Rodgers just shredded that D in Dallas in the first half and made it look easy. Whoever said Rod Marinelli knows defense may be right but his game plan for this particular game was either plain awful or executed awful. My assumption after watching McClain is he is definitely not a starter but a fill-in rotational guy to give others a breather.
 

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they could be worse but they would have to be pretty bad to be worse then last year
 

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Watching the rerun of Dallas vs GB right now. McClain is AWFUL!! Hand placement poor, takes himself out of plays regularly and for the most part, a non-factor. Haven't studied McGee but man, if he is not much better we are in trouble guys. We NEED DL help at #17.
BTW, Rodgers just shredded that D in Dallas in the first half and made it look easy. Whoever said Rod Marinelli knows defense may be right but his game plan for this particular game was either plain awful or executed awful. My assumption after watching McClain is he is definitely not a starter but a fill-in rotational guy to give others a breather.


Agreed. BUt from most of the Mocks I have seen, the defensive pick at 17 is being forced not because of talent, but because of need. If I have a choice between a stud RB at 17, or a D-lineman we took a few slots too early.... Im going RB, because there is much deeper d-line talent in this draft.
 
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