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I didn't realize UCF made the list until seeing this post and then I rewatched the vid in the OP. LMAO
I didn't realize UCF made the list until seeing this post and then I rewatched the vid in the OP. LMAO
Stanford & Washington are legit. If you get an offer from either of those schools you know you've hit academic pay dirt.With the exception of Air Force and Navy (where football is not the main focus), these schools just know how to game the system the best. Any school that has a significantly higher graduation rate for football players than for the general student body is working it! Just my onion.
Stanford & Washington are legit. If you get an offer from either of those schools you know you've hit academic pay dirt.
However, where did UW get these rankings? The US News is the definitive ranking for universities. UDub is a really good college, no doubt. However, it's not #2 in the country for public schools, nor #10 in the world. It's the #20 public school, and #59 in the country overall (Clemson is #24 and #66 respectively). Think about how insane that statement is. To be the #2 public school, UW would have to be better than Berkeley, UCLA, UNC, UVA, William and Mary, Michigan, and Georgia Tech. To be the #10 university in the world, it would have to be in the same realm as, and better than most of: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford, Cal Tech, Columbia, Penn, Duke, Vanderbilt, Oxford, Cambridge, Chicago, Imperial College of London, Cornell, The Sorbonne, McGill, Toronto, Williams, Amherst, Wellesley, etc. How can that be, when they don't produce that much research and their incoming students have an average SAT score roughly 200 points lower than the above schools (their SAT scores are tied with Clemson). Those rankings are demonstrably false, and neither school should be used in the same sentence as Stanford academically (just as Stanford has nothing on Harvard, Yale, and Princeton for academic prestige). That said, both are really, really great state schools, which is something ot be proud of.
I actually agree with you for the most part. 78Cyclones doesn't know what he's talking about. For Clemson, the graduation rate is 82%. Now, athletics is 92%, but that small difference can easily be explained by accountability. The athletes have coaches on their asses for them to succeed academically. They also have more incentive to graduate on time to retain their scholarships and graduate in time to enter the draft. Normal students can take a year off to do something else if they want (like travel or do a cool internship), or they might be too likely to party and end up flunking a key class. I took (and TAed) classes with some famous football players, and they had to do the same work everyone else did, and I sometimes saw their work, and it was fine in quality.
However, where did UW get these rankings? The US News is the definitive ranking for universities. UDub is a really good college, no doubt. However, it's not #2 in the country for public schools, nor #10 in the world. It's the #20 public school, and #59 in the country overall (Clemson is #24 and #66 respectively). Think about how insane that statement is. To be the #2 public school, UW would have to be better than Berkeley, UCLA, UNC, UVA, William and Mary, Michigan, and Georgia Tech. To be the #10 university in the world, it would have to be in the same realm as, and better than most of: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, MIT, Stanford, Cal Tech, Columbia, Penn, Duke, Vanderbilt, Oxford, Cambridge, Chicago, Imperial College of London, Cornell, The Sorbonne, McGill, Toronto, Williams, Amherst, Wellesley, etc. How can that be, when they don't produce that much research and their incoming students have an average SAT score roughly 200 points lower than the above schools (their SAT scores are tied with Clemson). Those rankings are demonstrably false, and neither school should be used in the same sentence as Stanford academically (just as Stanford has nothing on Harvard, Yale, and Princeton for academic prestige). That said, both are really, really great state schools, which is something ot be proud of.