Commit #22 - Mikale Wilbon

[Red_Alert]

If Nebraska lived in the same recruiting hotbed as all of the programs that actually have success out there recruiting, then recruiting wouldn't be an issue......as is the case for all those schools. They don't even win and they still pull in the bluechips.

We are at a disadvantage because of who we are and where we're located......and unfortunately we left the Big 12 right when it got really shitty and allowed a team like Kansas State to look like world beaters.

That is a lame excuse to defend an abject failure of a coaching staff. It's battered wives syndrome. Those other blue bloods can't sign every blue chip player in their "recruiting hotbed". Tuscaloosa and Auburn aren't blue chip hotbeds.

There are thousands of kids in the New York area. In your theory Rutgers and Syracuse would be playing for the national title once in a while. At the very minimum perennial Top 10 programs.

How did all those 4 and 5 star blue chippers do for Florida, Texas, or Michigan last season or even the few seasons prior?

 

[Red_Alert]

"Huskerz for Champz"
"12-0"
"We can't win a national championship because we're not in a blue chip hot bed"

 

[bigred472]

Huh?

Those are the schools that prove my theory...

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No they've all had great recruiting classes over the last couple of years but all have underperformed.

 

[bigred472]

If Nebraska lived in the same recruiting hotbed as all of the programs that actually have success out there recruiting, then recruiting wouldn't be an issue......as is the case for all those schools. They don't even win and they still pull in the bluechips.

We are at a disadvantage because of who we are and where we're located......and unfortunately we left the Big 12 right when it got really shitty and allowed a team like Kansas State to look like world beaters.

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What rock were you under during all the BD & TO years? We wern't in any hotbed of recruiting then either. Your only knee jerk response is that TOs success was because all or mostly all his recruits were taking steroids or some some sort of performance enhancement drugs. Even if ALL were and ALL bulked up to 350 Ppounds and could bench press 2000 pounds, they were STILL only 3* recruits that needed coaching (up). Bulk does NOT equal learned skills.

I am convinced that Bo and therefore all of his staff assume that all these kids that they recruit don't need coaching technique...and that's apparently NOT true.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

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No they've all had great recruiting classes over the last couple of years but all have underperformed.

LSU and Alabama have underperformed?

No offense, but we must not be talking about the same sport.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

Some coaches are bad and coach like they have 3-star guys when they actually have 5-star guys.....that is where Texas comes into play.

Some coaches are handicapped because they play by the rules and only get 3-star players....that's where Nebraska comes into play.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

That is a lame excuse to defend an abject failure of a coaching staff. It's battered wives syndrome. Those other blue bloods can't sign every blue chip player in their "recruiting hotbed". Tuscaloosa and Auburn aren't blue chip hotbeds.

There are thousands of kids in the New York area. In your theory Rutgers and Syracuse would be playing for the national title once in a while. At the very minimum perennial Top 10 programs.

How did all those 4 and 5 star blue chippers do for Florida, Texas, or Michigan last season or even the few seasons prior?

Shiiiiiiit.

The New York area is notorious for producing 3-star projects. It's also known for producing a bunch of dumb kids. They only need like a 40% to pass High School up thar. Buncha losers who were taught to be losers growing up.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I must admit to ye RA.....I usually just debate you because you're a fun debate. Neither you nor I are ever going to lose an argument in our own mind so I usually just spew up whatever I can to keep it goin

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

One thing I really do believe though is that it is difficult to recruit here due to location

 

[HuskerPower52]

I dont think that location has very much to do with it. I think it is the standards that we hold our program to and the fact that players are held very highly accountable for there actions here.

 

[Brasky]

I dont think that location has very much to do with it. I think it is the standards that we hold our program to and the fact that players are held very highly accountable for there actions here.

No. Just no.

 

[HuskerPower52]

No. Just no.

Bahahaahahhahahahahahaha what a maroon

 

[HuskerPower52]

Ok I will bite Brasky. Tell me exactly why Nebraskas recruiting is not bringing in 5 star players.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

There is nothing shiny and exciting about Nebraska Football to the average 17 year old kid.

If you're living anywhere near the South, there is going to have to be one cot damned good reason why you would leave to come up here.......and it sure as hell isn't going to be because of a National Title that we won 20 years ago.

People just assume that the average recruit is like Rex or Ameer or something......but they're not. Kids these days want what's trending......they want to play for that team that's all shiny and stands out. Like Oregon.......or Alabama.....or USC.....or Ohio State. Those schools have a specific brand right now that Nebraska doesn't have.

It doesn't just come with winning either....there is more to it than that. It's marketing more than anything else. We are still that same old stale Nebraska program that wear's the Champion brand socks.

 

[HuskerPower52]

Well USCs campus is under a damn Interstate in the middle of Compton.. Oregon We will see after Chip Kellys recruits are gone how shiny that school is with gawd awful unis. Bama is all about Nick saban and his coaching staff that players want to play for.

I dont think 95 percent of recuits are at the maturity level of REX or AMEER.

 

[Footballnut]

Nebraska has been really close with a few 5-star players the last few years... Priest Willis and Andrus Peat... Willis went to UCLA (closer to home, better weather), and Andrus Peat went to Stanford (Parent's love Stanford, a better team than Nebraska).

So we either need to change our location or change our success rate. While location isn't going to change our success could. We need to win with some 3 and 4 star players before were going to bring in some 5-star players. And truth be told, even if we do, we won't bring them in the the regularity that Bama does simply due to location and stigma.

 

[HuskerPower52]

Right. And farmer could be a 5star and a lot of this 3 stars could be 4star.

So we could be lpoking at 1 5star and like 8 4stars

And you could say that about past classes also

 

[Footballnut]

Right. And farmer could be a 5star and a lot of this 3 stars could be 4star.

So we could be lpoking at 1 5star and like 8 4stars

And you could say that about past classes also

Not many 5-star Guards... but I see what you're saying. Honestly, Nebraska's classes have been pretty fairly rated. Although the 2012 and 2013 classes are by far Pelini's best talent evaluated classes.

 

[bigred472]

LSU and Alabama have underperformed?

No offense, but we must not be talking about the same sport.

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Miles yearly losses since he's been at LSU--2--5-4-2-1-3-3. His reputation is based on a NC from 10 years ago. Yet, he always has great recruiting classes and doesn't (overall) have that much to show for it. Now Saban and 'Bama? Well, let's talk Saban and LSU 16 losses in five years. And yes at 'Bama he's won a shitload of games but the two years he lost just one regular season game, his teams have folded in their bowl games. With both these coaches there are "weaknesses with what they have done with all these stellar recruiting classes.

The 5 NCs we have prove that we don't need great recruiting classes to be elite, we just need coaches that can upgrade three star kids to play at 4 & 5 star levels.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

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Miles yearly losses since he's been at LSU--2--5-4-2-1-3-3. His reputation is based on a NC from 10 years ago. Yet, he always has great recruiting classes and doesn't (overall) have that much to show for it. Now Saban and 'Bama? Well, let's talk Saban and LSU 16 losses in five years. And yes at 'Bama he's won a shitload of games but the two years he lost just one regular season game, his teams have folded in their bowl games. With both these coaches there are "weaknesses with what they have done with all these stellar recruiting classes.

The 5 NCs we have prove that we don't need great recruiting classes to be elite, we just need coaches that can upgrade three star kids to play at 4 & 5 star levels.

Sir, the 5 National Championships we have don't prove anything.

Those days are long gone and over. We need to stop beating our chests over something that happened decades and decades ago. These recruits weren't even swimming around in their pops' gonads yet when Nebraska was really relevant.