College football talent gap keep increasing, that's a problem

[Across The Field]

Unless youre OSU or Bama. Then you dont need to win either.

CFB isnt different than any other college sport. The too teams always get better recruits. If only 12 teams made the NCAA basketball tourney wed have 9 or 10 of the same 12 every year. Same with baseball and everything else. The reason those other sports have different winners is they dont just take 3% of their teams. This "rich getting richer" is simply a self fullfilling dynamic a 4 team playoff gives us

OSU got in because they:

1. Beat three top 10 teams, including an OOC top 10 P5 team that finished the year 12-1 and won their conference. They also won that game on the road and in very convincing fashion.
2. Had their only loss come in a game to a top 10 team on the road, and it was a fluky loss in a game that they otherwise dominated

If PSU didn't have the embarrassing loss to Pitt or the blowout loss to michigan on their resume, they would've went to the playoff that year.

 

[7Samurai13]

Harbaugh everyones favorite coach that has never won a major conference championship.

How dare you call the Pioneer league not a major conference.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Harbaugh everyones favorite coach that has never won a major conference championship.

Except the National Football Conference.

 

[NolePride]

The gap is actually wider than you think. All you have to do is look at the top 10 recruiting rankings and it's pretty much the same teams year in and year out. The ACC is currently a one team league and that isn't going to change for a while due to recruiting.

The enigma in the Big 12 is Texas who can't figure out what to do with it's talent and OU keeps running away with the offensive talent but they can't put together an entire team with depth.

No one in the PAC has even the slightest shot at winning a national championship right now against the top teams in other P5 conferences.

The top of the SEC and B1G are really where all the talent is right now (one exception being Clemson) and that isn't going to change anytime soon.

Before the season starts you can look at the last 4 years of recruiting rankings and there are only about 10 teams that even have a shot to win it all. A team might come out of the blue eventually but I don't see it happening soon.

Let me give you some numbers to reinforce your position.

It is probably wider than anybody thinks.

4-years of recruiting 2015-2018.

135 5-star players. 134 went to P5 schools. 1 to a G5 school (Oliver at Houston)

1,425 4-star players. 1,384 to P5 schools (97.1%) 41 to G5 schools (2.9%)

That's the overall.

Now for the League...

44.4% of 5 stars to the SEC'
20.7% to the ACC
16.3% to the Pac12
14.1% to the Big10
3.0% to the Big12

4-stars

SEC 32.4%
Big10 17.8%
ACC 16.1%
Pac12 15.7%
Big12 12.1%

Now let's compare the disparity inside the leagues

5-stars

SEC signed 60 in those 4 years. 56 to the top 7 teams...4 by the bottom 7 teams
SCC signed 28. 3 schools signed all of them...11 signed none
PAC12 signed 22...3 schools signed all of them...9 signed none.
Big10 signed 19...4 schools signed them all (11 by Ohio St) 10 signed none
Big12 signed 5...All by 2 teams...8 signd none.

4-stars

SEC 461 331 by the top 7 and 130 by the bottom 7
ACC 230 199 by the top 7 and 31 by the bottom 7
Big10 253 227 by the Top 7 and 26 by the bottom 7
Pac12 223 198 by the top 6 and 25 by the bottom 6
Big12 172 147 by the top 5 and 25 by the bottom 5.

Anybody that tells you there is parity in college football please explain to them that they'don't
know anything or they are a fucking liar.

 

[NolePride]

How dare you call the Pioneer league not a major conference.

That poor thing needs to be laid in the worst way.

Please forward her address to Alaska Guy.

 

[Wild Turkey]

Let me give you some numbers to reinforce your position.

It is probably wider than anybody thinks.

4-years of recruiting 2015-2018.

135 5-star players. 134 went to P5 schools. 1 to a G5 school (Oliver at Houston)

1,425 4-star players. 1,384 to P5 schools (97.1%) 41 to G5 schools (2.9%)

That's the overall.

Now for the League...

44.4% of 5 stars to the SEC'
20.7% to the ACC
16.3% to the Pac12
14.1% to the Big10
3.0% to the Big12

4-stars

SEC 32.4%
Big10 17.8%
ACC 16.1%
Pac12 15.7%
Big12 12.1%

Now let's compare the disparity inside the leagues

5-stars

SEC signed 60 in those 4 years. 56 to the top 7 teams...4 by the bottom 7 teams
SCC signed 28. 3 schools signed all of them...11 signed none
PAC12 signed 22...3 schools signed all of them...9 signed none.
Big10 signed 19...4 schools signed them all (11 by Ohio St) 10 signed none
Big12 signed 5...All by 2 teams...8 signd none.

4-stars

SEC 461 331 by the top 7 and 130 by the bottom 7
ACC 230 199 by the top 7 and 31 by the bottom 7
Big10 253 227 by the Top 7 and 26 by the bottom 7
Pac12 223 198 by the top 6 and 25 by the bottom 6
Big12 172 147 by the top 5 and 25 by the bottom 5.

Anybody that tells you there is parity in college football please explain to them that they'don't
know anything or they are a fucking liar.

I’m not a 100% convinced can you provide more data?

 

[7Samurai13]

That poor thing needs to be laid in the worst way.

Please forward her address to Alaska Guy.

She might be too old for AG.

 

[NolePride]

I’m not a 100% convinced can you provide more data?

P5 schools have signed 3,319 3-stars in that time period out of a total of 4,480. 74.1% G5 have signed
25.9%.

G5 schools are dominating the two star and unranked recruiting...

UCF and Cincy each have signed 5 4-stars in that time period. Cincy got the 4-stars that enjoy
playing in a dump and UCF got there's because of all the Beaches in Oviedo.

 

[Across The Field]

Anybody that tells you there is parity in college football please explain to them that they'don't
know anything or they are a fucking liar.

If college football success was 100% predicated on recruiting stars, you'd have a point. There are two problems though:

1. Several of these highly rated kids go to schools that have shit for coaching, so it doesn't matter. Coaching >> recruiting stars.
2. Recruiting stars are FAR from an exact science. There are loads of superstar NFL players who were no-name recruits coming out of high school, just like there are loads of former top 25-50 overall recruits that didn't amount to shit.

 

[Olyduck]

Except the National Football Conference.

What university is that?

 

[Olyduck]

That poor thing needs to be laid in the worst way.

Please forward her address to Alaska Guy.

bro. WTF?? she is 16. gtfo of here

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

What university is that?

I suspect you already know.

 

[Olyduck]

She might be too old for AG.

no no no in the worst way. this isnt the kind of thing to joke about.
line crossed.

 

[batchaps4me]

Let me give you some numbers to reinforce your position.

It is probably wider than anybody thinks.

4-years of recruiting 2015-2018.

135 5-star players. 134 went to P5 schools. 1 to a G5 school (Oliver at Houston)

1,425 4-star players. 1,384 to P5 schools (97.1%) 41 to G5 schools (2.9%)

That's the overall.

Now for the League...

44.4% of 5 stars to the SEC'
20.7% to the ACC
16.3% to the Pac12
14.1% to the Big10
3.0% to the Big12

4-stars

SEC 32.4%
Big10 17.8%
ACC 16.1%
Pac12 15.7%
Big12 12.1%

Now let's compare the disparity inside the leagues

5-stars

SEC signed 60 in those 4 years. 56 to the top 7 teams...4 by the bottom 7 teams
SCC signed 28. 3 schools signed all of them...11 signed none
PAC12 signed 22...3 schools signed all of them...9 signed none.
Big10 signed 19...4 schools signed them all (11 by Ohio St) 10 signed none
Big12 signed 5...All by 2 teams...8 signd none.

4-stars

SEC 461 331 by the top 7 and 130 by the bottom 7
ACC 230 199 by the top 7 and 31 by the bottom 7
Big10 253 227 by the Top 7 and 26 by the bottom 7
Pac12 223 198 by the top 6 and 25 by the bottom 6
Big12 172 147 by the top 5 and 25 by the bottom 5.

Anybody that tells you there is parity in college football please explain to them that they'don't
know anything or they are a fucking liar.

Let me play devil's advocate:
According to Rivals, in the last decade Alabama has dominated the recruiting scene with an average finish of 2.2. Auburn's average finish is 9.2 with rankings including 14,12 and 13. Alabama signed 27 five stars in a four class span from 2013-2017. Coach Saban is still 4-3 against Auburn w/Malzahn. You can beat the best program, with the GOAT Coach, regularly with really good but statistically inferior recruits.

 

[Olyduck]

I suspect you already know.

well we are on a college football board talking about college football and i cant find any evidence of a national Football Conference in any college football records.

 

[Olyduck]

Let me give you some numbers to reinforce your position.

It is probably wider than anybody thinks.

4-years of recruiting 2015-2018.

135 5-star players. 134 went to P5 schools. 1 to a G5 school (Oliver at Houston)

1,425 4-star players. 1,384 to P5 schools (97.1%) 41 to G5 schools (2.9%)

That's the overall.

Now for the League...

44.4% of 5 stars to the SEC'
20.7% to the ACC
16.3% to the Pac12
14.1% to the Big10
3.0% to the Big12

4-stars

SEC 32.4%
Big10 17.8%
ACC 16.1%
Pac12 15.7%
Big12 12.1%

Now let's compare the disparity inside the leagues

5-stars

SEC signed 60 in those 4 years. 56 to the top 7 teams...4 by the bottom 7 teams
SCC signed 28. 3 schools signed all of them...11 signed none
PAC12 signed 22...3 schools signed all of them...9 signed none.
Big10 signed 19...4 schools signed them all (11 by Ohio St) 10 signed none
Big12 signed 5...All by 2 teams...8 signd none.

4-stars

SEC 461 331 by the top 7 and 130 by the bottom 7
ACC 230 199 by the top 7 and 31 by the bottom 7
Big10 253 227 by the Top 7 and 26 by the bottom 7
Pac12 223 198 by the top 6 and 25 by the bottom 6
Big12 172 147 by the top 5 and 25 by the bottom 5.

Anybody that tells you there is parity in college football please explain to them that they'don't
know anything or they are a fucking liar.

I wonder how many players got ranking bumps for being recruited by the bigger schools

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

well we are on a college football board talking about college football and i cant find any evidence of a national Football Conference in any college football records.

You should have specified.

 

[batchaps4me]

I wonder how many players got ranking bumps for being recruited by the bigger schools

That is a big factor.

 

[Olyduck]

You should have specified.

i dont feel on a COLLEGE FOOTBALL board I should have to clarify im talking about COLLEGE FOOTBALL

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

i dont feel on a COLLEGE FOOTBALL board I should have to clarify im talking about COLLEGE FOOTBALL

Well, now you know that you do. Happy to have clarified it for you.