Coffee Talk: 7 Words You Can't Say to Jack Johnson

[Bloody Brian Burke]

That was part of that age group in that graph. There is a lot of overlap with Gen X and older millennials where they sit in their careers and abilities to live a better life.

It isn't about who is smart or stupid. It is a demographic indicator only, really no different of a demographic grouping as religious affiliations.

The whole stupid part isn't about education level, but more the overall understanding of what is going on with the economics and government policy. College educated folks normally, as studies have shown, tend to understand those items more. Hence, why that stereotype exists.

Depends what part of government policy. Non-college educated service worker might have a better idea of how on the ground economics are trending than college educated finance bro whose entire view of the economy is the DJIA.

Or they might just blame Washington for everything.

It’s just too broad stroked to have any relevance for me. It may have once upon a time but it doesn’t fly anymore, at least not without parsing through what exactly they are educated in or what those non-college people do for a living.

 

[forty_three]

I’m also kinda tired of the “college educated” graphs. A lot of tradespeople, people in the service sector, government employees etc don’t have college degrees. Doesn’t make them stupid. And likewise, having a college degree in liberal arts or communications or whatever doesn’t make you smart.

I think they intend it to be like some sort of barometer, but it does come across as intensely condescending, and unhelpful "grouping" and separating of people which is a key factor in in what got us here. Viewing various factors as a way to compartmentalize us and them.

 

[forty_three]

Man, I am so fucking depressed today. The air just feels heavy.

In 2016, I can kind of see it. Even though most people knew he was a racist, ra.pist, terribly business person, the dog-whistles were loud but still not 100% blatant.

By now, people have seen exactly what he is. That is so very disappointing that it wasn't an utter blowout.

So the US deserves everything it going to get. It seems that decent people in that country is a minority. That is incredibly sad.

And it extends way beyond the border. Terrible people have received a very clear message that it is perfectly fine to be terrible people.

Just ugh...

If I send you my resume with a few packs of hot dogs, can you help a brother out and get me some interviews?

 

[forty_three]

 

[forty_three]

 

[dash]

I think they intend it to be like some sort of barometer, but it does come across as intensely condescending, and unhelpful "grouping" and separating of people which is a key factor in in what got us here. Viewing various factors as a way to compartmentalize us and them.

I agree and to me it just highlights the "us" vs "them" which is never good. I don't like to be labelled as a liberal elite that believes he is above someone who works in a trade, these days I think the smart move is to go into trades, heck I'm glad I'm going to be out of IT in about three years from now because AI is going to make a lot of tech jobs obsolete in a few years. It already is happening.

 

[thedddd]

Depends what part of government policy. Non-college educated service worker might have a better idea of how on the ground economics are trending than college educated finance bro whose entire view of the economy is the DJIA.

Or they might just blame Washington for everything.

It’s just too broad stroked to have any relevance for me. It may have once upon a time but it doesn’t fly anymore, at least not without parsing through what exactly they are educated in or what those non-college people do for a living.

That is the thing, it is just a level of education demographic only. No different from other groups like age, religion, nationality, but the stereotype exists because people take the term college educated to mean something it doesn't.
Essentially the folks who are college educated take it as "see I am smarter than you"
The non college educated take it as "you are indoctrinated, woke and have no commonsense"


By no means should it ever be used as a guiding source on actual knowledge, but the factor is taken that way based off of past surveys where folks who have said college education understand key factors over others that don't. I am not saying that is a good thing, it is just the reality of that misguided measurement.

 

[thedddd]

I think they intend it to be like some sort of barometer, but it does come across as intensely condescending, and unhelpful "grouping" and separating of people which is a key factor in in what got us here. Viewing various factors as a way to compartmentalize us and them.

Essentially every voting demographic group is pinned that way.

 

[thedddd]

I agree and to me it just highlights the "us" vs "them" which is never good. I don't like to be labelled as a liberal elite that believes he is above someone who works in a trade, these days I think the smart move is to go into trades, heck I'm glad I'm going to be out of IT in about three years from now because AI is going to make a lot of tech jobs obsolete in a few years. It already is happening.

You can do that with every voting demographic measurement, it is used as a broad stroke which usually lumps a major segment of said group into something they are not.

 

[mattola]

Who is the next up and comer for the Dems? Better be a straight white male if they ever want to get back in power.

 

[dash]

Who is the next up and comer for the Dems? Better be a straight white male if they ever want to get back in power.

I guess that rules out Pete lol. Gavin Newsom it is

 

[dash]

You can do that with every voting demographic measurement, it is used as a broad stroke which usually lumps a major segment of said group into something they are not.

Yes sir. I just want to see what the final vote tally turns out to be.

 

[thedddd]

Who is the next up and comer for the Dems? Better be a straight white male if they ever want to get back in power.

Wouldn't doubt it is Shapiro in PA.

 

[thedddd]

Yes sir. I just want to see what the final vote tally turns out to be.

Yep I get it.


The whole reason these items are done so they can pinpoint their talking points.

IE...saying you are pro Palestine to the large middle eastern population in the mid-west and out of the other side of our mouth state you are pro Israel to the large population of Jewish folks in the northeast.

 

[Comeds]

Man, I am so fucking depressed today. The air just feels heavy.

In 2016, I can kind of see it. Even though most people knew he was a racist, ra.pist, terribly business person, the dog-whistles were loud but still not 100% blatant.

By now, people have seen exactly what he is. That is so very disappointing that it wasn't an utter blowout.

So the US deserves everything it going to get. It seems that decent people in that country is a minority. That is incredibly sad.

And it extends way beyond the border. Terrible people have received a very clear message that it is perfectly fine to be terrible people.

Just ugh...

Hey, look at the bright side. You dont live here.

 

[Comeds]

Who is the next up and comer for the Dems? Better be a straight white male if they ever want to get back in power.

They were already talking Maryland governor Wes Moore before this election. Wouldnt be surprised if it was him. Terrific resume of education and service. Just one problem.

 

[mattola]

They were already talking Maryland governor Wes Moore before this election. Wouldnt be surprised if it was him. Terrific resume of education and service. Just one problem.

he likes pineapple on pizza?

 

[forty_three]

Perhaps the reason every conspiracy theory the last 6 years was embraced and covered is so people would be less inclined to have questions for fear of looking like one of the crazies should something suspicious come up.

Trump did say at a rally that people didn't need to vote. He had all the votes he needed.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

That is the thing, it is just a level of education demographic only. No different from other groups like age, religion, nationality, but the stereotype exists because people take the term college educated to mean something it doesn't.
Essentially the folks who are college educated take it as "see I am smarter than you"
The non college educated take it as "you are indoctrinated, woke and have no commonsense"


By no means should it ever be used as a guiding source on actual knowledge, but the factor is taken that way based off of past surveys where folks who have said college education understand key factors over others that don't.

to be fair the non college educated probably cant spell indoctrinated

A college education more times than not will give someone a thorough breadth of knowledge but sure its not the be all end all in terms of how intelligent a person is. Hell, according to that screenshot of the exit poll i posted, college educated white males only broke 49/48 Harris.

at the risk of "us versus theming" not all Trump voters may be idiots but all idiots are Trump voters.

 

[Comeds]

he likes pineapple on pizza?

There's conversion therapy for stuff like that