Coco Crisp and Nick Punto.

[northeastphillyguy]

Believe it or not Punto and Crisp are the only two players for Oakland who are over the age of 31 years old. This is a great young team that is headed for the post season. They give young players a chance to hone their skills in the majors. They pay attention to stats and on base percentage. This is all done with a low payroll. Billy ball has merit! Amaro is destroying the Phillies and refuses to learn. Their is no excitement watching the Phillies anymore. We need a new GM.

 

[HammerDown]

Seeing Punto's name reminds me how Vin Scully drove me nuts how he pronounced it. Instead of POON-toe like everyone else says, he said PUN-toe. Drove me freakin NUTS.

 

[Cedrique]

Believe it or not Punto and Crisp are the only two players for Oakland who are over the age of 31 years old. This is a great young team that is headed for the post season. They give young players a chance to hone their skills in the majors. They pay attention to stats and on base percentage. This is all done with a low payroll. Billy ball has merit! Amaro is destroying the Phillies and refuses to learn. Their is no excitement watching the Phillies anymore. We need a new GM.

I think you mean Money ball. Billy ball is when you ride 4 young starters into the postseason by having them pitch 400 innings so their arms are ready to fall off by the time they are 28. (actually not a bad strategy for Oakland since they wouldn't have the money to give them big contracts anyway).

 

[Cedrique]

Seeing Punto's name reminds me how Vin Scully drove me nuts how he pronounced it. Instead of POON-toe like everyone else says, he said PUN-toe. Drove me freakin NUTS.

He also likes to emphasize the first syllable of Carlos ROOO-iz 's last name

 

[northeastphillyguy]

I think you mean Money ball. Billy ball is when you ride 4 young starters into the postseason by having them pitch 400 innings so their arms are ready to fall off by the time they are 28. (actually not a bad strategy for Oakland since they wouldn't have the money to give them big contracts anyway).

Oakland has two possible Cy Young candidates this season. Sonny Gray and Scott Kazmir. Neither is being overworked. They lead the the league in ERA and runs scored. All this with a payroll of 83 million.

 

[Omar 382]

Oakland has two possible Cy Young candidates this season. Sonny Gray and Scott Kazmir. Neither is being overworked. They lead the the league in ERA and runs scored. All this with a payroll of 83 million.

Gray is legit, but I expect a big comedown in Kazmir's performance. He's been on my fantasy team since like early April so I hope I'm wrong but I doubt he can sustain his success.

 

[navamind]

Gray is legit, but I expect a big comedown in Kazmir's performance. He's been on my fantasy team since like early April so I hope I'm wrong but I doubt he can sustain his success.

he'll probably regress, but his peripherals are still very good (3.01 FIP, 3.43 xFIP, 7.56 K/9, 1.80 BB/9, 49.5% groundball rate). He's throwing pretty hard again, occasionally hitting 95-96 (he was struggling to get into the upper 80's a few years ago).

 

[Omar 382]

He hasn't thrown more than 165 innings since 2007, and the last start I watched him, he was only hitting around 92 MPH consistently. His FIP shows he's due for a little bit of a regression.

 

[Cedrique]

Oakland has two possible Cy Young candidates this season. Sonny Gray and Scott Kazmir. Neither is being overworked. They lead the the league in ERA and runs scored. All this with a payroll of 83 million.

That's what I meant. That is Moneyball. Billy ball was 1980-82 when Billy Martin managed the teams. In 1980 the starters pitched 94 complete games. in 81 they pitched 64 (in a strike shortened season). In 82 they only had 42, probably because a couple of those guys were burned out already.

 

[navamind]

Scott Kazmir » PitchFx » Velocity Graphs » FT | FanGraphs Baseball

Yeah my bad, it is a bit down from last year. But even then, it's higher than it was a few years ago. I thought he was washed up. His two seam/slider combo's been pretty effective though, rating at 4.9 and 4.3 runs above average respectively.

 

[navamind]

Chavez also will probably regress, but his peripherals are also pretty good. Adding a cutter's really helped him.

Read this yesterday: The Oakland Way - NBC Sports | NBC Sports

 

[northeastphillyguy]

Chavez also will probably regress, but his peripherals are also pretty good. Adding a cutter's really helped him.

Read this yesterday: The Oakland Way - NBC Sports | NBC Sports

I read the article. Sounds like Ego has no part to play in the way they do things. The organization is all on the same page. Not just how smart you are but instead doing smart things.

 

[Cedrique]

Whatever happened to the "stats guy" that the Phillies got a few months ago?

And speaking of stats, now that the Phillies are 12-19 at home and near the bottom of the league in homeruns. In their ballpark they need to get guys that hit home runs and get a lot of walks. Enough of the small ball bullshit. Oakland has 4 sacrifices all year. They should be winning or losing big instead of spending 30 innings trying to scratch out a run against the Mets.

 

[northeastphillyguy]

Whatever happened to the "stats guy" that the Phillies got a few months ago?

And speaking of stats, now that the Phillies are 12-19 at home and near the bottom of the league in homeruns. In their ballpark they need to get guys that hit home runs and get a lot of walks. Enough of the small ball bullshit. Oakland has 4 sacrifices all year. They should be winning or losing big instead of spending 30 innings trying to scratch out a run against the Mets.

His name is Freedman. But the consensus is that Amaro will not listen to him. Amaro still likes the old ways of scouting and evaluating. But what harm would there be if Amaro compromised a little.

 

[Retroram52]

Uh, northeast, Amaro doesn't know what compromise means.

 

[northeastphillyguy]

Uh, northeast, Amaro doesn't know what compromise means.

We can always send him a dictionary!

 

[Retroram52]

Yea do that Northeast. Send him a couple of boxes and maybe he'll get the point!

 

[redseat]

It still amazes me how Nick Punto is still in the league

 

[navamind]

It still amazes me how Nick Punto is still in the league

He had an 86 OPS+ last year and played great defense 2B/SS/3B. He's had some crappy years mixed in with some solid ones.

 

[redseat]

He had an 86 OPS+ last year and played great defense 2B/SS/3B. He's had some crappy years mixed in with some solid ones.

I know he is a good defender but he hits worse than Drew..