Coaches on the Hot Seat

[molsaniceman]

Profootballtalk reports the Broncos are expected to fire coach Vance Joseph at season's end.

 

[SteelersPride]

You give Vance such a good qb to work
With and swing and whiff on your third round luxury pick

 

[ArlingtonCowboys100]

Jason Garret should have been fired years ago because for lack of a better word....he sucks. He is nothing more than a scapegoat for the Cowboys failures. Jerry Jones is the real reason for their problems. He is an attention whore that needs to get credit. During his entire ownership he has had 2 good coaches (Johnson, Parcells) and he forced them both out. The rest were nothing but yes men and not good enoug the be head coaches imo. Unless Jerry gives up control he will never get a good coach to take the job. Being the Cowboys coach does not carry the same luster it used to.

Jerruh likes him a yes man and that is what he has.

 

[MileHigh64]

Profootballtalk reports the Broncos are expected to fire coach Vance Joseph at season's end.

Yeah......dead man walking.

 

[Pattersonca65]

The two teams I heard yesterday were the Broncos and Cardinals

 

[SteelersPride]

Yeah......dead man walking.

seriously, look at his qb, u traded a top wr, and could have used that third round pick on something valuable, elway kinda f'd up this roster and blame it on vance

 

[GNG]

Profootballtalk reports the Broncos are expected to fire coach Vance Joseph at season's end.

They should do it now.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Jason Garret should have been fired years ago because for lack of a better word....he sucks. He is nothing more than a scapegoat for the Cowboys failures. Jerry Jones is the real reason for their problems. He is an attention whore that needs to get credit. During his entire ownership he has had 2 good coaches (Johnson, Parcells) and he forced them both out. The rest were nothing but yes men and not good enoug the be head coaches imo. Unless Jerry gives up control he will never get a good coach to take the job. Being the Cowboys coach does not carry the same luster it used to.

Not sure how good or bad of a coach Garret is, but could not agree more about Jones. He's the sole reason why I cannot stand the Cowboys. Nothing against the team or players otherwise, but I just cannot stomach an owner who dominates media coverage like Jones does. Watch any NFL game and you'll be lucky to see one or two quick shots of the team owner. Yet when it's the Cowboys, they must show 15-20 shots of this prick.

 

[Lake Shore Drive]

Not just because of the Week 1 results, but overall, who are your top 5 coaches on the hot seat??

Here are mine:

1. Hue Jackson
2. Jason Garrett
3. Marvin Lewis
4. Jay Gruden
5. Todd Bowles

Not sure where I'd rank Ron Rivera, but I think he too is a prime candidate for dismissal after this season. And I doubt that Doug Marrone will be round in '19 as well, at least not as HC of the Jags.

 

[MileHigh64]

seriously, look at his qb, u traded a top wr, and could have used that third round pick on something valuable, elway kinda f'd up this roster and blame it on vance

I can see how some would view it that way and Elway certainly has to take some of the responsibility for this year's results but injuries and mediocre at best QB play have been much bigger culprits. I live in Denver, so I'm immersed in all the pressers, media coverage, access to Dove Valley, etc. Vance Joseph has just been largely in over his head. With a better quarterback, I'm sure he would have had greater success but he's been pretty poor in game management. Most fans in Denver have been screaming "fire VJ" all season and that has come to a roar. What most of them don't think about is who is going to be his replacement/savior? Easier said than done.

 

[SteelersPride]

I can see how some would view it that way and Elway certainly has to take some of the responsibility for this year's results but injuries and mediocre at best QB play have been much bigger culprits. I live in Denver, so I'm immersed in all the pressers, media coverage, access to Dove Valley, etc. Vance Joseph has just been largely in over his head. With a better quarterback, I'm sure he would have had greater success but he's been pretty poor in game management. Most fans in Denver have been screaming "fire VJ" all season and that has come to a roar. What most of them don't think about is who is going to be his replacement/savior? Easier said than done.

yeah the grass isnt always greener, i jsut think he was tied a bit with a subpar roster

 

[MileHigh64]

yeah the grass isnt always greener, i jsut think he was tied a bit with a subpar roster

I agree. Elway had a really strong 2018 draft but that doesn't make up for his last three drafts and not having a franchise quarterback.

 

[SteelersPride]

I agree. Elway had a really strong 2018 draft but that doesn't make up for his last three drafts and not having a franchise quarterback.

sadly theres still talent there, offense needs some help. And i fear lindsay is coming way back to earth........

but the d is still there, he needs to be accountable and get shit done

 

[Duffman]

sadly theres still talent there, offense needs some help. And i fear lindsay is coming way back to earth........

but the d is still there, he needs to be accountable and get shit done

My biggest problem with firing Vance is and always has been the fact that a new HC would be Denver's 5th HC in the last 11 years and 3rd in the last 5 years. People expect a winning football team and yet fail to see how averaging a new HC every 2 years not to mention new Coordinators every year doesn't produce that. When you have no stable coaching consistency players see that and don't want to play for you without you having to overpay like crazy for them and then you're stuck with a bunch of high salary players and are limited in what else you can do.

Not to mention that fans and media were calling for Vance's head after his first year so as a coach A) why would you want to be apart of that culture and B) let's say this new HC leads the team to a 5-11 record(what Vance did last year), do you really wanna be sweating getting fired your first year without ever having proper time to build a team?

 

[MileHigh64]

sadly theres still talent there, offense needs some help. And i fear lindsay is coming way back to earth........

but the d is still there, he needs to be accountable and get shit done

Lindsay's had a couple of poor games but I would never count that kid out. Defenses stacked the box and put the game on Keenum's shoulders. I think he's going to be the Broncos seriously bright spot coming out of this season.

 

[SteelersPride]

My biggest problem with firing Vance is and always has been the fact that a new HC would be Denver's 5th HC in the last 11 years and 3rd in the last 5 years. People expect a winning football team and yet fail to see how averaging a new HC every 2 years not to mention new Coordinators every year doesn't produce that. When you have no stable coaching consistency players see that and don't want to play for you without you having to overpay like crazy for them and then you're stuck with a bunch of high salary players and are limited in what else you can do.

Not to mention that fans and media were calling for Vance's head after his first year so as a coach A) why would you want to be apart of that culture and B) let's say this new HC leads the team to a 5-11 record(what Vance did last year), do you really wanna be sweating getting fired your first year without ever having proper time to build a team?

i agree 100% sans cincy theres a reason teams with stability doo well. but u also need a good GM. I personally dont think elway is one

 

[SteelersPride]

Lindsay's had a couple of poor games but I would never count that kid out. Defenses stacked the box and put the game on Keenum's shoulders. I think he's going to be the Broncos seriously bright spot coming out of this season.

he may, dont get me wrong i really like him. I LOVED him in college. I just think theres gonna be a big regression, hopefully im wrong

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

Not sure where I'd rank Ron Rivera, but I think he too is a prime candidate for dismissal after this season. And I doubt that Doug Marrone will be round in '19 as well, at least not as HC of the Jags.

I think Marrone is definitely gone. I don't like Rivera and think he should be fired but I'm not sure what his relationship is like with the front office and ownership. They may cut him a break because of Cam's injury. I don't know.

 

[Yo Tee]

In my opinion, Marrone, Lewis, Rivera and Bowles should be gone. Depending on these last two games for the Cowboys, Garrett should be gone as well. Also, I know the Broncos have improved from last year, but Vance Joseph shouldn't be 100% safe either.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

As for Dallas, I can't stand Jerrah any more than any of you. Hate the guy but as a GM and picking draft picks, he's given the coaches everything they need to win including taking the big risk on Cooper. Dak is a question mark at times still, obviously but there is talent all over that roster. If Garrett gets out-coached and is one and done in the play-offs, Jones is going to have to change his ways and forget the "yes man" and get a guy that can get the most out of that team. This team needs a decent play-off run this year, imo.